Any Vril fans here?

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I can't get enough of his music lately. Especially his Resident Advisor Mix :shock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-paGC-_uII0

His vibe is so on-point. I can't think of anyone that's at his level right now, emotionally. I feel like I'm in space staring back at earth.

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I'm not sure, I think I know him but it didnt stick around.

I'd like to congratulate you with signing in at 430 though:)

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Saw him live few months ago, i honestly did not see anything special about his work

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*puts hand up*

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Thronwagen probably techno track of the year for me.
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Not feeling his style. Sounds like anyone else to me.
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Kinda generic.

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Lost to the Void wrote:Kinda generic.

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is all of it generic as soon as it's not ultra-original mega-distorted whatever techno ?

Come on now, I know RA sucks 80% of the time (if not more),
hell, I think most people know that.
But the 20% that they do deliver, I'm very happy with that.
I'm not ashamed to say I started out with listenig to their podcasts many years ago,
they've gone down quality-wise for the best part of 2 years (at least), but the last year they are making a mean come-back.

And that Vril RA podcast...
I remember a certain part where he takes one of his own tracks and puts some kind of rhodes improvisation on top,
fucking loved that part, didn't sound generic at all to me !
If that's generic, then I'll gladly settle for generic and have my left testicle listen to all the true techno out there... ;)
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Hades wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:Kinda generic.

Very Resident Badadvisor.

is all of it generic as soon as it's not ultra-original mega-distorted whatever techno ?

Come on now, I know RA sucks 80% of the time (if not more),
hell, I think most people know that.
But the 20% that they do deliver, I'm very happy with that.
I'm not ashamed to say I started out with listenig to their podcasts many years ago,
they've gone down quality-wise for the best part of 2 years (at least), but the last year they are making a mean come-back.

And that Vril RA podcast...
I remember a certain part where he takes one of his own tracks and puts some kind of rhodes improvisation on top,
fucking loved that part, didn't sound generic at all to me !
If that's generic, then I'll gladly settle for generic and have my left testicle listen to all the true techno out there... ;)

No, and whatever gave you the rather bizarre idea that my tastes and/or music only deal with distortion. Both my own musical history and all the stuff I like is pretty eclectic.

Vril just happens to sound, to me, like every personality-free dub-ish techno ever.
Sweetcorn techno.
It`s not bad, but I been in to this music for a long time, I want a little bit more from it than not bad.
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boooooooooooooooooring

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Lost to the Void wrote:
Hades wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:Kinda generic.

Very Resident Badadvisor.

is all of it generic as soon as it's not ultra-original mega-distorted whatever techno ?

Come on now, I know RA sucks 80% of the time (if not more),
hell, I think most people know that.
But the 20% that they do deliver, I'm very happy with that.
I'm not ashamed to say I started out with listenig to their podcasts many years ago,
they've gone down quality-wise for the best part of 2 years (at least), but the last year they are making a mean come-back.

And that Vril RA podcast...
I remember a certain part where he takes one of his own tracks and puts some kind of rhodes improvisation on top,
fucking loved that part, didn't sound generic at all to me !
If that's generic, then I'll gladly settle for generic and have my left testicle listen to all the true techno out there... ;)

No, and whatever gave you the rather bizarre idea that my tastes and/or music only deal with distortion. Both my own musical history and all the stuff I like is pretty eclectic.

Vril just happens to sound, to me, like every personality-free dub-ish techno ever.
Sweetcorn techno.
It`s not bad, but I been in to this music for a long time, I want a little bit more from it than not bad.
I know you have a wide taste Steve, don't worry ;)
it's just that when one reads your words, you seem very selective about what is considered good stuff and what is poo or sweetcorn techno.
I guess it's because you are passionate about what you do.

But tastes just differ, and to me for example, Vril always sounded nice, distorted dubby chords driven techno with a decent groove.
At least when you heard a Vril track a few years ago, you could always tell it was a Vril track, which is not a thing I can say from a lot of producers.
Admittedly, perhaps he has been repeating that same kind of style a bit too much, but I'll admit I barely listened to any new techno for most part of the year since I had no money to buy vinyl, and digging up new music would have only made me depressed for not being able to buy it properly as I used to do.

but don't tell me you don't have a serious love for distortion if you build your own distortion units. Or did I misunderstand that one as well ? :)
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This year I know of a promoter who was hell bent on booking him.
Thought I'd see what I was missing out on. Nothing special really. It just seemed like because he's on Dystopian that he must be good.

Reminds me of when I saw Kobosil live and just didn't get the hype. Again it was like he's on MDR so..... I remember during that set he played a minute of solo kick drum, and then introduced a 16th note hi hats and everyone went crazy. I'm obviously missing something. :lol:

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How could you not love that Ashley, thats freakin awesome!

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Jeff Mills and his 909 ?
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I dont know, I was just ranting a bit.

I'm not that big on Jeff Mills either. I value his contribution to the scene and his work in general. But I would pay to see him somewhere.

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Hades wrote:
I know you have a wide taste Steve, don't worry ;)
it's just that when one reads your words, you seem very selective about what is considered good stuff and what is poo or sweetcorn techno.
I guess it's because you are passionate about what you do.

But tastes just differ, and to me for example, Vril always sounded nice, distorted dubby chords driven techno with a decent groove.
At least when you heard a Vril track a few years ago, you could always tell it was a Vril track, which is not a thing I can say from a lot of producers.
Admittedly, perhaps he has been repeating that same kind of style a bit too much, but I'll admit I barely listened to any new techno for most part of the year since I had no money to buy vinyl, and digging up new music would have only made me depressed for not being able to buy it properly as I used to do.

but don't tell me you don't have a serious love for distortion if you build your own distortion units. Or did I misunderstand that one as well ? :)

Like I said, to me, it`s not bad. I just want more than just not bad.
I`ve been mainlining techno in to my veins for a long time, it takes a stronger hit than not bad to get me excited.
Also I master a lot of the shit. It all starts to sound the same after a while because it fucking is.


I built my own distortions and other units (Can of pain, NVidimurder, Violint etc) as part of my self built noise generation matrix so I had a way of generating sound that is completely unique to me, and also, there was nothing I could buy that had the features I wanted. A Sherman filterbank will always sound like a sherman filterbank etc No one has the setup I have, you can`t buy it from a store. That was important to me.

Pretty much the same reason I have had valve monoblocks custom made for driving the mastering studio monitors, I wanted something exactly to my spec that I couldn`t get off the shelf.

I don`t buy a lot of gear, I don`t collect gear, I don`t tend to "fiddle about" in the studio, I generally know what I want to do before I switch stuff on, my inspiration comes from my own peculiar mental afflictions, so I don`t often treat myself, but when I do get something then it has to be special.

Saying that, I am developing a rather worrying lust for guitar stuff....
I hope it passes, but I do have all this space in the new studios, and after using so many lovely amps on my album I do really like Engl`s. And Soldano`s. And Sun 0))) amps. And Suhr........... Ooh, and Victory Amps....
And maybe a Baritone Guitar. And a picollo bass, I reckon power chords on that would be sick...and...
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Sure, he hasn't reinvented the weel, but saying his music doesn't have any personality, just because it works within familiar realms seems a bit extreme to me. If you'd give me a stack of unlabeled dub techno promos, I could immediately tell you which one is by Vril. Which obviously isn't the case for the other 99% of dub techno producers.

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Alume wrote:I dont know, I was just ranting a bit.

I'm not that big on Jeff Mills either. I value his contribution to the scene and his work in general. But I would pay to see him somewhere.
ow same here.
I paid lots of money for that Axis book he released about 2 years ago,
only to cut it up in pieces and use the artwork to hang up in my studio :D
so I kind of see the guy on a daily basis, but not really obvious shots, and I don't even pay attention to him anymore, you know ?

But anyway, I was trying to say : Mills has been doing that cheap trick with the boom boom boom with his 909 for years,
and the crowd always still goes nuts.
I guess it's just a fact that most people are easy to impress or just a bunch of followers or whatever, I don't know... :)
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Alume wrote:How could you not love that Ashley, thats freakin awesome!
I know that NOW...

It took a lot of post-event self reflection. I even tried to recreate the moment at home. Shutting the curtains. Loading various kicks in to the DAW, experimenting with various timings before unleashing the hi hats.

Then I even went on a 3 day bender...

No luck. I couldn't get anywhere near what he achieved that night in Fabric.
So now I have a new found respect for him.
To master something that simple takes serious ability.

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ashley BORG wrote: To master something that simple takes serious ability.

quite indeed !

but how do I get that serious ability ?
and even more important :
how do I open a subsekt topic on how to acquire that serious ability ?

and do I have the right compressor for that ?
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