Kicks to sample

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Hey,

Me again with my kicks. Looking for techno tracks to sample the kick from.

Suggestions?

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Yeah it was the smoothest route when you didn't nail the distortion and compression I reckon.
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Indeed, I may sound like a douche but it doesn't work. So please help

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Buy Mattias' sample pack?

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baswillems wrote:Indeed, I may sound like a douche but it doesn't work. So please help
Sampling other peoples tracks will not help you learn anything.
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he's in for a can of pain !

I would make one especially for him, limited edition, sign it, paint it shiny pink,
put some hello kitty stickers on it,
and sell it for 450€ and you can still get yourself a blofeld !
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Lost to the Void wrote:
baswillems wrote:Indeed, I may sound like a douche but it doesn't work. So please help
Sampling other peoples tracks will not help you learn anything.
Sampling seems to have worked out ok for hiphop.
You mean we have to be learned now to make music?

Maybe you think sampling won't teach you anything about zero crossings, crate digging, loop xfades, pitch and key, noise reduction, bitrates, waveforms, single cycle based synthesis, envelopes, layers, eq, timestretching and warping, normalization, transients and anticlick envelopes, air, dirt, compression, and so on.

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Practise makes perfect Bas! I know the pain that things don't sound like you want them to, but you have to keep trying and trying. There are several threads on the forum that will help you get there :)
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innovine wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:
baswillems wrote:Indeed, I may sound like a douche but it doesn't work. So please help
Sampling other peoples tracks will not help you learn anything.
Sampling seems to have worked out ok for hiphop.
You mean we have to be learned now to make music?
i would not compare hiphop and techno.
those genres are about different things. sound quality in hihop is not so important, there's emphasis on expression, lyrics etc. beat can be shit and hihop still good.
in techno sound quality matters more, because of the groove and mooving loops have to be smooth (with some exceptions). beat cannot be shit, current direction of club oriented electronic music focuses more and more on quality and production, whole tracks are improving, frequency spectrum is getting wider, new tools arising. so yes, learning new techniques of creating sound is essential. and the kickdrum is the first basic and fundamental at the same time. it's the first thing you need to learn and till you die [in methaporical sense, as a producer] you will be working on it. otherwise, don't bother.
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baswillems wrote:Indeed, I may sound like a douche but it doesn't work. So please help
There been very good advice for you already. practice and keep researching, ask questions etc.
Planar wrote:Buy Mattias' sample pack?
Also valid option, in purpose of study of course :mrgreen:
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Do we get a student discount Mattias if we buy the pack?! :P
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Yes!
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The mfs one is the latest right Mattias? I still use or quite often.

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As for this tread, BasWillems.. Music making is fucking awefull, but so fucking fun at the same time. Its like life, there is no right or wrong way, no manual. You have to figure out what works for you as an individual.

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although I don't like to base on samples, I also still have one of Mattias packs - I belive it's some free christmas sample pack. Very good for layering, recommended!

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Music making is fucking awefull? Strongly disagree. Thanks to musicmaking I have enough motivation to manage with most activities in my life (work, relationships etc.). Actually, the way I live is subordinated to music making, although i am not professional musician. it's beautiful and amazing. If you feel like not making your own sounds but rather sample others, you've got nothing in common with producing process.

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You could also try this:

http://www.sonicacademy.com/Kick

Its a cheap plugin that allows you to layer different tops/clicks and then gives you loads of control over a sine bottom in the form of pitch and volume envelopes. Its nothing radical plugin wise, but the control on the envelopes is quite nice.

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krypt wrote:Music making is fucking awefull? Strongly disagree. Thanks to musicmaking I have enough motivation to manage with most activities in my life (work, relationships etc.). Actually, the way I live is subordinated to music making, although i am not professional musician. it's beautiful and amazing. If you feel like not making your own sounds but rather sample others, you've got nothing in common with producing process.
You need to read between the lines mate. I owe joyfull thing in my life to music. But I for one think music making can be pretty nasty at some times when things dont work out, you have no time to make music or if you're simply inspirationless for a few weeks. Its like everything you love dearly or that you're almost obsessive about, its not all about roses. Its a process, and you're going to hit obstacles. That's what I meant, and he can either man up and overcome these obstacles or take a shortcut by copying others and thereby lying to your creative self.

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willemb wrote:You could also try this:
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Kick
Very nice man. Looks very nice. Even my hero, David Guetta, says it's a gamechanger!!! see the reference on the picture
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I can also recommend BazzISM. Have you used it Willem? Could you compare it?
http://www.ismism.de/BazzISM.htm

Alume - ok man, i get what you mean. But to be honest, i really enjoy even the hard times and problems too. It's a part of the process :)
Anyway, it is a personal thing. I belive it looks different for everyone, no point making generalisation.
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I believe the envelope control is more elaborate in this kick synth... i read some facebook thread where people were comparing the two.

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I did sample some Surgeon kicks when I was starting out, thinking it could bring me those pounding, heavy kicks. Only to realize that the sounds before and after that kick makes half of its sound.

My advice would be : don't think too hard on kicks, keep it simple (eq, light compression, some "textural layering" on top of it maybe) and focus on the sounds that'll go with it.


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