One long ride effect ??

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One long ride effect ??

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I often listen in some tracks that ride going on top or in the background that sounds like one long ride (for ride I mean something like a 909 ride) so without interruptions! :o Or maybe there are, but you can't hear them like if you would put them in 16.
How does it work?
:?: you know what I mean?

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what??... :?:

oh wait... I think I might see what you mean.

are there usually hi-hats and other things with shorter-harder abrupt attacks playing too?... and then the 909 Ride's playing (with its attack most likely completely rounded-off, sustain / release to "infinite", plus a long decaying verb), playing with all the rest?..

probably one of the many mixing "illusions" is how I think of it.
because a track with a kick on every quarter is completely different than verb bass... the former is creative... latter is not.

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Sustain wrote:I often listen in some tracks that ride going on top or in the background that sounds like one long ride (for ride I mean something like a 909 ride) so without interruptions! :o Or maybe there are, but you can't hear them like if you would put them in 16.
How does it work?
:?: you know what I mean?
Have you got an example you can post?
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Somehow like this first track? is that what you mean?


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There are a number of ways of doing this depending on the final desired outcome.
A good amount of reverb on the rides will cover the attack phase maybe a touch of side chain comp to the kick, and the ride hitting 8th notes.

You can pull back the attack phase of the ride itself, providing you are usng a sample, softening it by removing the transients (or use a transient shaper)

You can run the rides on 16ths and again, add reverb to smear them.

Sometimes it's nice to just resample the tail of a ride and use that with some verb.
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yess with proper reverb and resampling the tails I get very close to that effect :-)

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I know what you mean too. I have heard this before, sometimes more obvious than others. At times it really does sound like the sound is either looped or at least constant. I came across a free sample pack of ( I think it was an old MC 505 collection ) and in there were rides that were actually looped. I've tried that out specifically using the sounds that were looped and it didn't really have an effect I liked. Without some sort of movement and tweaking, to me it felt too static and blatant and prefer the smearing way or is using samples, having a softer attack.

You can get some nice synthetic rides with synths and can have a lot of control that way too if you are not after realistic rides.

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Yeah resampling right in the middle of the hit seems like the obvious way.

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Sustain wrote:I often listen in some tracks that ride going on top or in the background that sounds like one long ride (for ride I mean something like a 909 ride) so without interruptions! :o Or maybe there are, but you can't hear them like if you would put them in 16.
How does it work?
:?: you know what I mean?
Like the schranz techno continuous ride cymbal sound?

I've done it using Logic's EXS synth/drum machine, using an 808 kit (any DAW/drum machine will work)

- MIDI note on each 1/16th (using the 808 crash as the sample/sound)
- turn up the Attack until it's about halfway
- mess around with the Sustain until it has a nice carryover
- turn up the Release a bit (you'll want to experiment until it sounds right)

It will make the notes "ride" over themselves (overlapping/dovetailing)

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