Thee Max 4 Live thread

[Hades]

nope, safari just lets me download the thing as text file

[Planar]

Ah, the format of an axmd is JSON, so that's why a browser is opening it. Here's another link with a zip (the original link will still work):-

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/959 ... %20Seq.zip

[Mslwte]

Nice one mark. I'm gonna grab this tomorrow. I wanted to make one of these but I have to be honest it was all a bit beyond me.

[Planar]

Nice one mark. I'm gonna grab this tomorrow. I wanted to make one of these but I have to be honest it was all a bit beyond me.

Nice one, mate, let me know how you get along with it. I've found it a lot of fun to play with, but I'd be interested to know if it would be better with more steps and if the velocity lanes are too small etc.

There's nothing here that couldn't be picked up in a few tutorial videos btw. Having an aim in mind definitely helps and then its just a bit of persistence with the foibles of Max. I'm making a few decent improvements to it, so hopefully I can put up a better version sometime soon.

[Críoch]

I really like this. Having good fun making some poly riddimz, recording the midi out & using scale to play riffs on synths with 1 voice polyphony.

Random fun.

[Planar]

I thought I'd share a M4L device I'm working on. It's a midi sequencer based on the one that you get in Tremor by FXpansion. I've waxed lyrical about the Tremor sequencer on here before and also how it annoys me that you can't turn the synth engine off, so I decided to make my own version of it. It has 8 sequencers that output triggers from C1 to G1, each sequencer has markers to change its length independently of the others so polyrhythms are a piece of cake to make. Sadly the lack of vertical space in the Ableton rack means the sequencers can't all be stacked on top of each other. There is also a marker to change the start as well, so it's got something the Tremor sequencer doesn't.

It's my first proper M4L project so it's very hacked together, but it seems to work pretty well with microtonic and drumracks. I'm going to try and make the output notes configurable and maybe add some automation sequencers as well.

If there's any interest I can post some audio up or share it with Subsekt members?

So this is a long time coming. I've had an enhanced version of my sequencer for a while, but the messy internals have put me off releasing it up until now. I've been very slowly increasing my Max knowledge and recently made a few discoveries which means I've been able to tidy it up, so I thought I'd upload it again with the new features. Here's what it looks like:-



You can now set what note each sequencer outputs with the selector to the right of each sequencer. The defaults still works well with most drum synths I've access to, but there is a lot more flexibility now and, of course, this makes melodic usage less painful as well. Also new is that each sequencer can have it's number of steps set to any number between 16 and 32.

I think it's a pretty handy device and I've enjoyed using it as a way to kick start a rhythm track, I find velocity sliders to insert notes tends to result in better patterns. I do recommend you record to midi (remember to take your poly-rhythms into account ) when you're happy with what you have and manipulate further that way.

The device is now reliant on a sub patch, so I think to install it you'll need to drag the folder into your library directory structure as there are 2 files. If anyone knows how to embed a bpatcher fully into a single file, let me know! Anyway, it's attached to this post. I hope you have fun with it.

[SFBM]

Always wanted to play around with M4L, but since I'm a lowly poor student, I don't 'technically' have a real copy of live..If I purchase M4L would I still be able to get it running, or do I need to splash out like $800 (Aus price for non-Intro version) for a proper copy before I can even do this? Wish I could claim a student discount on this stuff.

[Planar]

It's attached to your Ableton account, so you can't use it if you're not running a proper version of live (shame on you). I don't think you need suite and can purchase it separately. They do student discounts for all this stuff I think, or just watch kvr, I got Suite off there for less than £200.

[SFBM]

I'm studying currently and also unemployed for the moment (had a huge issue with a traineeship that randomly fell through), so it's either $ towards buying major equipment for my setup, or spending the same as that if not 2x purchasing software, and live here is quite expensive. I thought live intro couldn't run M4L? If it can, I guess that could be an option, as I plan to get an Ableton Push quite soon, but I also think there's a bunch of things that are disabled in intro, too.
Wouldn't student discounts be dependent of the store? Or do Ableton themselves offer some?

[Planar]

Ableton offer it themselves via their site, it's a digital copy, 40% off. But as I say, just watch the kvr marketplace, people sell stuff for crazy prices on there and it's usually a digital version for a quick license transfer. If you want a push I would prioritise the software first and Suite is a great package.

[SFBM]

I'll have a look, KVR marketplace actually looks super good! Is it Europe based, though? Could be the only issue for me, but I guess for stuff like digital licenses and keys and such you can pretty much just email the license upgrade/upgrade key etc, and otherwise, shipping is always to be expected with anything I guess! Thanks for the tip.

[Planar]

No, it global. Most prices in US dollars and you pay via PayPal gift, it actually works out very well for those of us who pay VAT etc. just watch for what you want and PM the seller with your offer. There is a feedback thread to search if you want to check out if the seller is legit.

It's saved me hundreds over the past year.

[aliasweber]

Yeah, it just outputs midi so stick it in the chain before a drum rack and it works a treat. Here it is:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/959 ... 20Seq.amxd

Drag it into your user library to install it. Let me know how you get on, if it breaks your computer you're on your own

thanks so much for this, really useful!

[Planar]

No worries. You did download the newer version didn't you? Not the one in that dropbox link. In fact, I'm going to delete them now.

If it was the newer version, did it work alright for you?

[SFBM]

Oh cool! Thanks for that resource! I've found production gear here in Australia to be quite expensive (although to be fair, most stuff over here we are overcharged for , compared to overseas..) and whilst I would need to look out for differences in power, voltage etc for some gear, I'm thinking this might be able to save me quite a few $ .

[Hades]

I'll have a look, KVR marketplace actually looks super good! Is it Europe based, though? Could be the only issue for me, but I guess for stuff like digital licenses and keys and such you can pretty much just email the license upgrade/upgrade key etc, and otherwise, shipping is always to be expected with anything I guess! Thanks for the tip.

I most likely have a live suite 8 license that I'm not using any more and I can sell you for a reasonable price, then you still have max4live, and you can still upgrade later to live 9 for a cheap price once you have more cash.

get a job on the side though.
I always did jobs when I was at univ.
Some of the jobs I did :

*be a medical guinea pig (paid loads of money, and having half of my family in medical jobs I made sure I only took part in very innocent studies)

*hand out beer to students on a 1000+ people cantus with carillon, I played "Push It" on the carillon at 3AM later on that night just before we took down the mics they used.
('Figured it was my only chance to do so, and what were they gonna say anyway : "don't do that again !" )

*Played ping-pong with lunatics. Officially I was doing documentation work, but yeah, the work was faster done, and the lunatics had a ping pong table, and the company I worked for hired a whole wing in the middle of a psychiatric institution.

*tobacco priming, fucking hard work, and dirty as hell, but at least I was 2 months in Canada, which beats sitting at home with the folks when you're used to your liberty at univ for a whole year.

[Críoch]

Ping pong with lunatics! Haha

What's tobacco priming? Harvesting?

[Hades]

yep, harvest.
was kiln hanger 1st year,
stripper 2nd year.

[Hades]

the lunatics were very entertaining I can assure you.
one was so way out there that they had to lock him up in a room.
He was completely nude and kept jumping up and down all fucking day shouting all kinds of stuff.
Very funny cause the window of his room looked out on our wing, so we could see him jumping all day.
One wonders where these people get there energy...

[SFBM]

Those jobs actually sound super fun! I am looking at jobs on the side but it looks like I'm either applying for part time retail at the moment and going onto study more (finishing off a sound degree right now) or searching for a while for a "foot in the door" type thing.

Very kind of you to offer the live 8 license, however at the moment I think even that I would be a bit ill equipped for monetarily. I did however manage to get M4L working! I am definitely intent on getting a push in the next 6 months, though, so at the least I will have live 9 intro