Hybrid setup discussion (signal flow)

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I don't do waffles, only beer.
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sorry, no can't see,
remember them IT guys...

trust me on this one though : no one eats waffles in Belgium except tourists and old ladies with blue wave in their hair.

beer on the other hand...
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BandoftheHand wrote:youtu.be/mlIfkjl4kho

:D
the guy has a poster with the 3 beer caps of one of my alltime favourite beers behind him : rochefort !
Try Rochefort 10, you'll never forget it.

My father and grandfather (and great-grandfather and so on) all grew up in Westvleteren, where they supposedly make the "best" beer in the world.

I was recently sitting in one of my favourite beer bars when a group of people entered.
They only sell Westvleteren in their abbey, and the monks refuse to produce more than what they need to make a profit they can live off, so technically you can't buy it in any bar in the world, cause they only sell 1 case per licence plate per week.
Obviously once in a while some guys find some way around it and get a few cases to sell somewhere.
So they had it for sale, except they were asking like 15€ for one.
This is absolutely ridiculous.
So when I heard the group of people debate whether they wouldn't take one, I said "folks, don't do it, they're ripping you off, take the Rochefort 10, it's just as good"

It was rather hilarious to see the effect of just 1 Rochefort 10 on the group.
Half of them were semi-drunk when walking out.
When I first tried it out cause a friend suggested it to me, I didn't know it either.
We had 7 of them in 1 afternoon, and a bottle of wine afterwards.
man, I was never as drunk as that.
Fucking killer beer.
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My local micro brew pub do an Elizabethan Beer (Like a Porter) that hits you at 12% abv, but you can`t really taste the alcohol. It`s lovely but it completely floors you.
Seen many people knocked shitwards with it.
Their imperial IPA is no wimp either. Fresh brew from the brewers themselves is always best.
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OHADOHAD wrote: are you working in an hybrid setup similar to that? If so, how did you set it up?
first of all sorry to dredge up an old post, but i commend a hardware and digital set up. it's really the best of all possible worlds but.. TBH i've had more difficulty fiddling around with digital stuff since the sweet spot you're trying to find is so narrow. (anyway)

basically my rig is what they call the "big tape machine" in logic.

have an akai mpk 49 rigged as master clock synced via usb with logic/ableton with its midi out to a t8 midi thru box, with gear daisy chaining with their thru ports from there> got a mackie onyx 24.4 feeding in all my tacky old synths and drum machines>have the 1-2, 3-4, and stereo outs fed into the a presonus firestudio project, into a couple audio in buses in logic> feeding a audio recording channel there, where i toss on compressors, fx etc. to taste and build up the mix from there to save time later on/avoid endless hours of tweaking.. if i need something else, i try tossing in a plug here and there (also via rewire in ableton) to create that digital and analog tension.

so far that has yielded some great loops to work with but i'm always looking for ways to improve. like originally i got the mackie for it's TDIF outs but i read the manual afterwards and the TDIF outs just bypass the channel strips. what good is that if you want to record your mutes live?? so i've been looking for ways to bounce the mix back from logic into the desk via i/o and try to mix the channels live with outboard FX.
or just toss everything into loops in the logic sampler... triggering loops with the midi controller keys. anything to get something intuitive going. i am always second guessing myself when trying to tease out loops and the loops just wind up blocky if they're cut up into 8,16, and 32 bar segments.

i'm kind of really looking for a better way myself.. and it seems, like flow wise, running things live seems the easier way.. a couple passes with mutes and tweaking synths or just recording midi program changes and CC to all the outboard gear using them as midi sound modules and just recording on a couple channels might be a good way as well. seems like there's more than a few ways to skin this cat.

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Hades wrote: Fucking killer beer.
I'll reward you handsomely if you can mail some fresh Rochefort to me :).

PM me if you are interested.
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But you're an IT guy (of sorts), Oddmyth. He hates all our kind.

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Planar wrote:But you're an IT guy (of sorts), Oddmyth. He hates all our kind.
ow for fuck's sakes. :)

I made 2 or 3 far too long posts explaining exactly why I think our IT department are cunts.

you guys are only subsekt cunts. :lol:

just don't start the "of oucrse it's normal to open a ticket" thing,
that kind of pissed me off
in my working conditions, at my company, it was impossible because
1. no access to ticket system
2. no time cause there's too much to do

and besides that there were 2 different tickets opened, and none of that changed a damn thing.

or suggest I'm some impatient irrational person to deal with which is why they didn't help.

Of course I'm a cunt, but the subsekt variety of cunt.

Anyway, in about 5 minutes from now I'll be drowning in work for the next 3 to 4 hours.

good news is though : thx to 3 different supervisors that put in some effort, our IT CUNTS finally stepped up their act and my pc is 99,5% working now.
The 0,5% is an easy workaround.
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oddmyth wrote:
Hades wrote: Fucking killer beer.
I'll reward you handsomely if you can mail some fresh Rochefort to me :).

PM me if you are interested.
no problemo,
be prepared for a proper take-off though.

a Rochefort 10 has the effect of a proper warm fireplace.
You feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

And you're best never to drink more than 2, maximum 3.
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You think rochefort is strong, you should try Brew Dog Tactical Nuclear Penguin. That`ll kill ya.
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I don't know, rochefort 10 has almost 12° inside and comes on really slow.

I can't compare to the one you describe since I never drank it.

I don't like beer where I can taste the alcohol though.
They made a variety of Grimbergen (optimo bruno I think it was called ?) where they upgraded the alcohol percentage from aroun 6 to 9, but it's really horribly done. You just taste pure alcohol in there.
Ugh !
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yeah, just read a quick review on that pinguin : strong taste of alcohol.
well, it's 32°...

that sure beats anything I heard from, but I doubt Id' like it.
I'd rather drink 3 or 4 different strong beers than one 32°
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Heh I've got an empty bottle of penguin above my studio desk that my so called "friends" bought me for my birthday. Tastes more like sherry than beer. I believe they brought out an even stronger one called "sink the Bismarck".

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shit man, that bismarck one is 41°

count me out, that shit can't possibly still taste like beer
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It certainly doesn't taste like beer. Nice though. They have to do some crazy shit to make beer that strong. I think they have to freeze and thaw multiple times, each time removing any water.

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Or just pour in a cup of ethanol, disinfectant, turpentine or whatever is cheapest.

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innovine wrote:Or just pour in a cup of ethanol, disinfectant, turpentine or whatever is cheapest.
exactly
one would presume the taste is obviously far more important than the alcohol.

I even drink alcohol free beer, it took me a long time to find one that I like (Warsteiner),
but now that I do, I love having one of those on my alcohol-free days.
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I had a shot of sink the Bismarck come to thnk of it.
it's more like bourbon than anything, it's a new type of drink really.
Beery malty hoppy bourbon.

But yeah I'm the same, I don't like to taste too much alcohol in beer. Thats why I go for imperial stouts, porters or IPAs if I want a strong brew. They cover themselves well.

Christmas and winter ales will be kicking about soon, they tend to go up in the 9's, 10's and 11's. It's like eating a meal though, I can never manage more than one.
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