Essential hardware to replace a DAW

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Mslwte wrote:Well it looks as if I'll have to quit music for a bit and watch porn

You could make music from all the sex sounds like these people did.

Venetian Snares and Hecate fucked, recorded all the sex sounds, and made an album exclusively from them

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go for a nice mpc. if you're solid on your timing you can pull old sample loops from your daw and just use them instead of your clips in ableton. or chop them up , reverse them and filter them.. play with the envelopes. all that stuff. it take more dedication since mpc software isn't exactly user friendly. also if you have an mpc with a version of JJOS you'll not have much manual support but there is a giant user base and forum.. albeit rather naive and thug-ish since MPC is the domain of "hip -hop" (to use the term loosely in their case). but yeah, the MPC really does a bang up job once you get used to the format. the MPC swing is legendary, it handles MIDI really really well, and all arranging can be done by ear in a number of ways.. either in song mode, by just triggering mutes or chaining up muted sequences. it's a great alternative. but cumbersome (yet fun if you're up for a challenge).

other ideas could mean that you plug in the kits from simpler, Kong, maschine, or NI kits into any sampling hardware.
other hardware that freaks samples real nice: the OP-1, (plus one on the) octatrack, machine drum sps-1, the new electribes do some sample work as well as loose sequencing without any software whatsoever so you'd have to do mutes on the box, or on your mixing desk.
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Lost to the Void wrote:Hecate
met her a few times through my AdNoiseam mates, she's a cool girl as far as i remember (we were getting hammered).
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Mono-xID wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:Hecate
met her a few times through my AdNoiseam mates, she's a cool girl as far as i remember (we were getting hammered).
By all accounts she is fucking horrible, has messed with loads of people, pissed off loads of promoters, artists. Arrogant, expectant, spoilt.....

A proper Satanist.
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Get the Analog Rytm. It destroys the competition. I need to start saving for one.

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@Steve...like i said,just met her a few times and had a chat while getting drunk with the crew. Can imagine that she pissed off Nick AdNoiseam as i haven't seen her for years now. Who knows. Anyway,the few times i saw her she was actually very nice.
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Lost to the Void wrote:
Mslwte wrote:Well it looks as if I'll have to quit music for a bit and watch porn
You could make music from all the sex sounds like these people did.
I made an album like this. It was 12 seconds long. The main sound was inadequate sobbing...

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Planar wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:
Mslwte wrote:Well it looks as if I'll have to quit music for a bit and watch porn
You could make music from all the sex sounds like these people did.
I made an album like this. It was 12 seconds long. The main sound was inadequate sobbing...

Haha, post of the season
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I use an MPC1000 as my sequencer. It might be very much of interest to you. It's an excellent sequencer for midi. You can also record loops (or drag-drop them when connected to computer via usb) and then assign them to pads, and arrange the pads using xox style sequencing, play with your fingers or whatever. It's more about one-shots than handling loops, but you can slice up loops and use the sliders to select the slice, and record your fiddling with the sliders. You can also map things like pitch, start pos to the sliders. It's not much of a live-jam type tool, but it lets you chop, resequence and so on in lots of different ways. Keeps me well entertained anyway. You really should look closely at it. Don't be turned off by the masses of hip-hop. It's probably the best hardware sequencer ever, an excellent sampler, pretty flexible, and fun to work with. I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have.

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Planar wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:
Mslwte wrote:Well it looks as if I'll have to quit music for a bit and watch porn
You could make music from all the sex sounds like these people did.
I made an album like this. It was 12 seconds long. The main sound was inadequate sobbing...
It's was an LP then!
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Cheers for the MPC shouts. That actually sounds quite interesting. I could effect audio externally and then cut up and arrange on an mpc.

Can you resample easy enough?
I suppose it has decent quantization options to make it less human?
Can I sync harware and record multiple audio at once??
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I have an MPC4000. resampling is pretty easy. recording is limited. you can only get one track in at a time. there all kind of quantisation options that can be applied pre or post the human input. it takes more time to get things done, but for me at least, it's a lot more fun.
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You are limited. o one stereo in when recording. I typically use the prefade listen on my mixer to 'solo' a track for sampling, and I can still hear the others. You can also record two mono tracks at the same time, then split the recorded sample into two mono ones. You can also internally select the mpcs own master out as a recording source.

It has plenty of quantize options, and editing features if you manually want to move a hit a bit forward or back.

It is syncing fine to all my gear. you can even sequence patterns of cc movements, send pc messages (including msb and lsb) and both midi clock and timecode. Read the bit about it being an excellent sequencer a few more times :/

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if you're considering going the MPC route. you can do some work out of the box when slicing samples, making programs, then sending them to the MPC via USB via this program.

http://mpcmaid.sourceforge.net/

if you're looking to pull audio files from your daw into mpc maid. make sure they're converted to format wav in a program like 'switch' they may say wav coming from your daw but for some reason the mpc won't see them. so keep an eye out for that.
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the quantize on the mpc is great btw.. you can select right on the beat 50% swing for total robot. select note repeat for machine gun snares etc.

if you tap in your notes (its strong suit) and don't like the quantization results, you can get really into the sequence editor and tighten up every parameter. real techno right thurr.

also if you're familiar with tracker programs like renoise, the mpc sequence editor is basically just like any other tracker.. one more way to sound different. (if i'm, assuming correctly) guys like legowelt and EC8OR have been tracker fiends at one point or another.
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you want to go start to end product entirely without a daw? or just for creating stuff and multitracking into a daw?

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ross-alexander wrote:you want to go start to end product entirely without a daw? or just for creating stuff and multitracking into a daw?
I'd like to complete cut out the computer. I'm guessing now it's looking unlikely. Multi tracking to a daw is kinda what I have been doing up to this point.

I like the idea of an mpc. I've read before that techno people have used them.
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I use mine as a total DAW replacement, so it is possible. The disadvantage is that you probably want a good mixer and a good multifx unit or several effects. You can't just slap a reverb, eq and compressor onto every track, you need to plan it out, sometimes bouncing tracks with the fx on. So there are limitations and some things need workarounds, but on the other hand you'll not be messing with midi controller mappings, audio latency, driver issues, dongles and clicking on pictures of knobs with your mouse. It's a rewarding and challenging workflow which leads in a slightly different direction.

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innovine wrote:I use mine as a total DAW replacement, so it is possible. The disadvantage is that you probably want a good mixer and a good multifx unit or several effects. You can't just slap a reverb, eq and compressor onto every track, you need to plan it out, sometimes bouncing tracks with the fx on. So there are limitations and some things need workarounds, but on the other hand you'll not be messing with midi controller mappings, audio latency, driver issues, dongles and clicking on pictures of knobs with your mouse. It's a rewarding and challenging workflow which leads in a slightly different direction.
Plus, if you turn the lights in your studio off, there's nothing better than tons of blinking LEDs instead of a monitor glow

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innovine wrote:
innovine wrote:I use mine as a total DAW replacement, so it is possible. The disadvantage is that you probably want a good mixer and a good multifx unit or several effects. You can't just slap a reverb, eq and compressor onto every track, you need to plan it out, sometimes bouncing tracks with the fx on. So there are limitations and some things need workarounds, but on the other hand you'll not be messing with midi controller mappings, audio latency, driver issues, dongles and clicking on pictures of knobs with your mouse. It's a rewarding and challenging workflow which leads in a slightly different direction.
Plus, if you turn the lights in your studio off, there's nothing better than tons of blinking LEDs instead of a monitor glow
A mixer and decent fx unit are something I have been looking at as well. The limitations you mention appeal to me and the issues with a PC I will happily leave behind.
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