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Thanks everyone who took the time to listen to my track.

Once I've finished it, I'll stick it in the members section

Loool, sorry for spamming

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https://soundcloud.com/solomana/simonas-punch/s-5AVM4 re-upload 4, any ideas where's i should work on, i'm thinking that i did to much of compression, however feedback is really welcome guys, i need that!


from about 10 seconds in, I would say it all sounds like some bandpass filter has been applied or something.
I don't know, it has so many sounds in there with enough high end, and yet it feels as if they barely cut through.
Well, they do cut through, but it's not exactly as if they got a lot of sting, you know ?
And most obviously : where's the fucking low end ?

I don't know man, I can't shake this band-pass feeling out of my head when I listen to this.
It all sounds very flat and all pretty similar.
As if every sound shares almost the same frequency spectrum, you know ?

Other than that, I'm still waiting for a proper riff or something.

I'm trying to think of ways to say what I think without sounding like a total cunt. :)
Maybe the best thing you can do right now is keep the patterns from this track and just move on,
because they might become useful some day in a future project,
but not with the current sounds if you ask me...
and even if used in a future project, you'll still need to add something more to keep it interesting.

you learn stuff, you move on,
you hate yourself, you feel like shit,
you start a new track, you feel like a king,
next morning, you listen again,
and it all starts all over again... :D

just hang in there long enough and things start to get better
(but even if you do, you'll still go through that cycle) ;) ;)

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in the end, best case scenario :
you'll end up writing a cult underground techno track about touching your penis,
because what else is there to do when things get far too quiet around the Dutch/Belgian border once 3 young hoodlums finally passed out... ;)

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juodas wrote:
jordanneke wrote:
Thanks everyone who took the time to listen to my track.

Once I've finished it, I'll stick it in the members section

Loool, sorry for spamming


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jordanneke wrote:
Thanks everyone who took the time to listen to my track.

Once I've finished it, I'll stick it in the members section

Loool, sorry for spamming


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nothing, sorry :)

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ok, I just need to quit working on this before I get some opinions from people.
This is just a quick export from the point where I said I had enough for today.
I consider the arrangement of this one pretty much done, and the mix about 95% done.

I did not compare this to headphones or other systems,
apart from one quick listen to my old hifi downstairs (and that didn't exactly cheer me up tbh)

I think the mix needs to be a little brighter,
but then again, I know my living room is kind of bass heavy.

The most disappointing to me at the moment is when I heard so many details I worked on for ages in my studio just not coming through on my speakers here in the living room.

anyway, here it is :

https://soundcloud.com/hades/die-stille/s-eZS5P

please, any opinions, tips, hate mail, it's all welcome :)

many thx upfront ! ;)

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ok, I just need to quit working on this before I get some opinions from people.
This is just a quick export from the point where I said I had enough for today.
I consider the arrangement of this one pretty much done, and the mix about 95% done.

I did not compare this to headphones or other systems,
apart from one quick listen to my old hifi downstairs (and that didn't exactly cheer me up tbh)

I think the mix needs to be a little brighter,
but then again, I know my living room is kind of bass heavy.

The most disappointing to me at the moment is when I heard so many details I worked on for ages in my studio just not coming through on my speakers here in the living room.

anyway, here it is :

https://soundcloud.com/hades/die-stille/s-eZS5P

please, any opinions, tips, hate mail, it's all welcome :)

many thx upfront ! ;)


FFS, can you please give feedback to others before jumping in? 8-) 8-)

The ONLY thing I don't like is the the level of the block-y snare perc. Something about it stands out in an alien way from the rest of the mix. Maybe it's just mixed too high. But once I notice it, that's all I can hear, and it annoys me.

Otherwise - quality to put many of us to shame. You absolute man train of a cunt.

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jordanneke wrote:

FFS, can you please give feedback to others before jumping in? 8-) 8-)

The ONLY thing I don't like is the the level of the block-y snare perc. Something about it stands out in an alien way from the rest of the mix. Maybe it's just mixed too high. But once I notice it, that's all I can hear, and it annoys me.

Otherwise - quality to put many of us to shame. You absolute man train of a cunt.


thx for listening.

can you give me an exact moment when you hear the perc you mean ?

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It's the main one on the 2 and 4 in place of a snare. Comes in at 1.00

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ah ok, wait, you really mean the exact same block sound I used as a snare that you said you liked when I posted this track before, right ?

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Is it at the same level?

Do you have the original?

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in that original (yes, still on my SC as private link, see a few pages ago) I had fuck all modulation going on,
plus I did my best to use more compression on the drums this time,
because, you know, all techno is always about impact and shit ;)

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Aha I hear the difference.

In the wip they are slightly more fuzzy with the eq and less sharp. They stay at the same level, but everything around them has been mixed way better, so they stand out more.

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actually, I'm quite sure I took them down in level for like 90% of the track compared to that quick demo earlier,
but yeah, I guess I know what you mean.
I kept going back and taking things down a little more time and time again...

did you have the feeling the mix was muffled at all ?

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Muffled, now?

Not in the slightest.

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Right theme, i like it, however as quite long track, i miss evolving stuff, i'm not saying that ohh it's not evolving at all, but it's lacks of light yeah. what 'm talking about it's loops it's quite boring and hollow, anyway i cant tell you what to do, becauss i don't know anything about music theoretical field and shit and i'm not really giving fuck about that anyway.
p.s what does die stille means?

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Right theme, i like it, however as quite long track, i miss evolving stuff, i'm not saying that ohh it's not evolving at all, but it's lacks of light yeah. what 'm talking about it's loops it's quite boring and hollow, anyway i cant tell you what to do, becauss i don't know anything about music theoretical field and shit and i'm not really giving fuck about that anyway.
p.s what does die stille means?


if I would show you the project, I think you'd be amazed at how there's at least 3 different key elements (the Rhodes and the soft pad and the strings) that have very little looping going on. But yes, obviously, the rest has loops, as is the case with all electronic music.
But as I just explained to my mrs : it's like when you cook dinner, and your kids go "but dad, that's too spicy", and you are 200% sure you didn't put anything spicy in there at all. It doesn't matter if you're sure or not, you still won't get it sold if that's what they're saying. ;)

Can you define "boring and hollow" at all, if possible ?

Die Stille = the quiet(ness)

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I would like to hear it really mate, you don't know how much i want improve, and learn about the melodies work with engineer and learn by practice, however it is what it is i will produce stuff in harry potters room ;)

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anyway i cant tell you what to do, becauss i don't know anything about music theoretical field and shit and i'm not really giving fuck about that anyway.


I don't think you need any knowledge of musical theory to be in a position to say something is boring/loopy or not. I think pretty much anyone who listens enough to electronic music can tell if something is loopy or not.
Whether or not this means it is also boring is a different thing, of course.
I mean, when I listen to old 90's Regis tracks for example, that's just 4 minutes of banging loops,
there's no arrangement there, or very little. But that doesn't make it boring, unless I have to listen to it for hours.
But I'm pretty sure most people would find that music extremely boring.
Me and Pedro often have that discussion that he likes repetitive loopy stuff, and I need enough variation most of the time. :)

Anyway, I asked around about the length, if this was too long or not.
I mean, I do just make long tracks. At least for this type of tracks, I have the feeling they need to tell a certain story, whatever that might be, and therefore I need to take some time or else I'd always feel as if I'd be rushing towards the end. Of course that doesn't mean I want them to be boring, but I can see people not liking this rather extended form of tracks. People's attention span just gets shorter and shorter. Hell, even my long posts are too much for most to handle. :D

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I would like to hear it really mate, you don't know how much i want improve, and learn about the melodies work with engineer and learn by practice, however it is what it is i will produce stuff in harry potters room ;)


I'm trying to understand what you mean, but I'm afraid your English isn't making much sense to me. :)
I'm still trying to grasp this one :

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ok, Oskar was kind enough to do some tiny things to the mix yesterday evening.
I think it's far better this way, but I still need to work on a few details.

opinions are welcome :

https://soundcloud.com/hades/die-stille-widening-by-oskar/s-tzWJD

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