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 Post subject: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:00 pm 
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I'm talking about the actual notes played, ie. the MIDI information, not the sound. I'm curious because I feel like I still haven't found the perfect interface to play in the notes for my tracks. I've never liked the traditional (hardware) piano layout very much, it's design is quite arbitrary to a layman and it always takes my back to my forced piano lessons when I was like 8 years old and I can't write anything decent when I'm in front of one :lol: On the other hand, drawing in notes on the piano roll doesn't feel tactile and spontaneous enough. I've taken a liking to playing stuff on the Push recently, it's layout is quite nice because it's the same for every scale and the chord shapes are also transferable everywhere. Still thinking about buying a Kordbot though, I like the hex-ish interface, feels very techno. I'm not sure if you can add notes to any chord on it though, which would be a dealbreaker.

I like step sequencers sometimes but I personally I often feel like step sequencers and more keyboard-ish layouts don't mix that well because step sequencers tend to produce more dissonant and "wrong" note sequences whereas more traditional interface tend towards more traditionally consonant sequences and harmonies.

So, how do you guys do it? Do you play everything in live on a traditional piano keyboard? Or do you use alternative layouts like on the PUSH or the LinnStrument? Are you into piano-roll composing? Do you use hardware/software step sequencers? How much of the midi/note information do you quantize edit in the DAW afterwards?


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 Post subject: Re: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:06 pm 
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I think of a melody, then sometimes I`ll play it out on a keyboard if I can`t get it clear in my head, then I plot it out on the piano roll. Easy peasy.

Never use step sequencers, they suck for melody, unless you are a "punch in random notes then dial in random pitches" kinda guy. But are ok for drums I guess.

I definitely want a kordbot.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:44 pm 
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When writing on hardware, Cirklon sequencer. When on software, the Cubase piano roll. I play in chords and stuff but use the keyboard a lot less for recording MIDI than sequencing directly.

I used a Doepfer MAQ16 / 3 before the Cirklon. That was brilliant fun for wonky techno and happy accidents but was a pain to take an idea or melody in your head and then program it.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:01 pm 
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Different approaches depending on mood.

Often I hit keys on my MIDI keyboard and record it quickly and shape the sound till I get something that is interesting
enough to trigger a melody, chords or sequence in my head.

Or just hitting rec and jamming away (or have a distinct melodic idea in mind) on my MIDI keyboard.
Then use sections I like most, rearrange / cut / paste sections in a piano roll.

Or step sequencing for machine-sounds. Not in a piano roll but on a synth / machine.

Or get a certain tone out of the type of sounds just happening and play a melody inspired by that.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:00 pm 
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Lost to the Void wrote:
I think of a melody, then sometimes I`ll play it out on a keyboard if I can`t get it clear in my head, then I plot it out on the piano roll. Easy peasy.

Never use step sequencers, they suck for melody, unless you are a "punch in random notes then dial in random pitches" kinda guy. But are ok for drums I guess.

I definitely want a kordbot.


I'm still waiting for that 3 hour Kordbot video that explains all the features in detail, Youtube is surprisingly thin on this thing.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:05 pm 
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qu-bit octone.
octatrack.
logic stock midi device/effects
reaktor sequencers (very basic ones that come with it)

simpler the better.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:06 pm 
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I guess you have to at least somewhat familiar and comfortable with the keyboard to be able to transfer a melody from your head to a track. Otherwise, it's just noodling and shooting in the dark mostly. OTOH, sometimes completely random methods work too - sometimes I will just hit totally random keys on the keyboard in a random order and later find a short loop that I like. This works for rolling basslines best. Also, there's this audio to midi function in ableton which can generate midi notes from your humming or other audio sources.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:19 pm 
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I use my keyboard (on whitch I type) as a midi keyboard to find a melody. Once I found something I like, I draw it in my pianoroll with y mouse. This is temporary till I get myself a midi keyboard again...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:18 pm 
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It depends on the sound.

I draw drums and percussive sounds on the piano roll.
I use the keyboard of my laptop or my Minilogue for things like pads, stabs and more melodic sounds.
Sometimes I have a clear melody in my head that I try to play out, other times I just record some notes and pick out sections I like.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:21 pm 
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I use a bunch of different methods, Push, keyboards, step sequencers...


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 Post subject: Re: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:13 pm 
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midi key board mostly.
i try to find a simple sequence and then start to process the shit out of it with delays to create a groove. then when i have something satisfying i may change the notes in the midi clip. can get interesting results like that.
this is some trial & error / lucky accident method because
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dubdub wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:
I think of a melody, then sometimes I`ll play it out on a keyboard if I can`t get it clear in my head, then I plot it out on the piano roll. Easy peasy.

Never use step sequencers, they suck for melody, unless you are a "punch in random notes then dial in random pitches" kinda guy. But are ok for drums I guess.

I definitely want a kordbot.


I'm still waiting for that 3 hour Kordbot video that explains all the features in detail, Youtube is surprisingly thin on this thing.


Yeah, weird huh?

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 Post subject: Re: How do you guys play/generate the notes in your tracks?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:24 am 
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Yeah watched that yesterday.
Definitely want one.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:10 pm 
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I usually draw the notes directly with mouse, but I think it depends if you're focusing in some more melodic stuff or just a loopy simple melody (I'm in the last group)


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