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 Post subject: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:27 pm 
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I recently made a track in Ableton with a ton of complex and precise automation. Which was a pain. Ended up watching this video review of Bitwig which made me try the demo:



Can't wait to make the switch.

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:42 pm 
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Interesting, never considered an other daw. Can see you if can change everthing dramatically for the better inspiration wise.

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:48 pm 
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Using Bitwig now for over 2 Years and beeing absolutly happy. Never considered any Problem, Bug or Crash. Its an absolute great workflow and in my oppinion the best looking DAW (i really dont like Ableton). Even the Ableton Stock Plug Ins which are almost praised by a lot of people (iam jealous for the Glue and EQ8) are not my taste and i prefer the ones from Bitwig (Operator and Analog are so fiddly).

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
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Hi Belka,

are you missing anything?

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
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I have just started using it. I keep on forgetting and going back to Ableton though *head desk*

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:05 pm 
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If I was wanting more from my DAW I would maybe try it out, but I`m really super happy at the mo.

And also, there`s something really yucky about that interface, there`s a sort of cubase-ey overly busy ugliness to it that really makes my eyes freak out.
It looks like it has great features but it`s like they took ableton and force it to have sex with cubase. And, well, cubase is like an old dried white dog shit you see on a sidewalk... it`s there, you can see it`s there, everyone can see it`s there, but no one really wants to deal with it and so it has sat on the sidewalk and turned white.

Saying that, if I were to make the leap, it would be to Bitwig.

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:01 pm 
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Better modulation and automation would be nice but it's not enough to make me switch DAWs.


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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:19 pm 
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rktic wrote:
Hi Belka,

are you missing anything?


One Click Freezing is the only thing what comes to my mind, but u can easily work around that (bounce it and deactivate the Plugs in the Channel)
There are a lot of Videos out about producing entire tracks with Bitwig, at the start i liked the Vids by Sadowick (some are uncommented, only building)
e.g. (maybe you need to skip to the STart, got weird time stamp shit here)


Shows alot about workflow, visibility etc

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Yeah thats sums it up pretty well but I also think Cubase got the 2nd best Layout in teh WOrLdz ^^ Ableton is so damn ugly, those Automation Lines (all a matter of taste)

I came from Reason 4, was trying to change to Cubase but 600 Euros was too much for a Trainee. I was close to just screw the shit and order a cracked Ableton Version from the Underground Dealerz (like 80% of the Boys out there) but then my Girl gave me a voucher for Thomann, same moment Bitwig droped the Price... Starter Blabla Discount, i demoed it and watched as many Tuts as possible, got my Bitwig Copy for 150 or 200 Euros. I train some friends and jam around with them, always on their ableton stations. So many hate moments. When it comes down to MAC and Ableton i get totally lost, always Swastika in my Eyes. So i spent several hours in Ableton but i never regret to pick Bitwig!

Edit: To be clear iam still on Version 1.3.15, do not have the 2.0 yet what have a lot more to offer!

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
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You are of course completely wrong.
Cubase is an old peoples home where the residents have been there so long they no longer notice the stench of death, marmite and antiseptic cleaning fluid.

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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:16 pm 
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I've been curious about Bitwig as well. However, I'm 100% sure that any creative limitations I'm currently experiencing have nothing to do with the software I'm using and actually rest with me.

I've changed DAW multiple times (and dabbled with loads) and I think to take time out to learn another one would just be a form of procrastination. The only difference for me is traditional Cubase / Logic style or something more beat loop focused like Ableton Live, FL studio. That seems to have an impact on how I make music but the rest I find is so minor it doesn't have much of a bearing.


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 Post subject: Re: This sold me on Bitwig
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I bought a secondhand license to try and sold it the other day for a couple minor inconveniences that really drove me crazy.

My biggest annoyance was that in ableton when you are selecting an external input for a track and pull up the list the dropdown has little mini meters that light up and make it easy to see what's active. I had an aggregate device with like 40 inputs where it can get confusing what's connected to what and what that corresponds to on the aggregate device and bitwig doesn't have those little meters in the list making it a ton of annoying guesswork or troubleshooting figuring out where the problem was where I wasn't getting the signal I want.

also on that note in the preference menu when setting the interface io matrix up I had so many inputs and outputs it didn't fit in the view and often scrolling wouldn't work and I couldn't navigate around the preference menu- it would just get stuck.

I had some other issues with audio and midi routing that would have been really simple in ableton but sometimes just didn't work right in bitwig


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