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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:42 pm 
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For the record, I wouldn't have made a remark except for the fact that the creators of these pieces have branded themselves as capable of giving 'Design Advice'.


To provide you a little bit of background: the piece Stacie posted has been culminated over something like a decade. And while you might be right that it looks like merely bland motivational crap from a distance, the tiny pieces of wisdom posted around here might have a similar appeal for those outside this box.

Very often, we forget the most simple things when we're stuck somewhere. And those reminders are less about novelty than perspective.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:54 pm 
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[wesellboxes] wrote:
Remove the swearing and it's the same "motivational" shite you'll find on the wall of a call centre.


Yet many of those posting questions around here strive more for perfection than anything else. Maybe this just isn't adressed at you.


I think you can strive for perfection, and there is nothing wrong with that, but you just accept that perfection is diaphanous, ethereal.

It`s like the Tao, you can reach for it, but never grasp it, because it is beyond definition.

I think it`s fine to strive for perfection, just don`t become obsessed with your desire for it. Desire is the source of all pain etc. Striving for excellence is just the same, a different word, same thing.
It`s the journey, not the destination, take time to enjoy the journey.

“If you try to change it, you will ruin it. Try to hold it, and you will lose it.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
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The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.

Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations.

Yet mystery and manifestations
arise from the same source.
This source is called darkness.

Darkness within darkness.
The gateway to all understanding.

Tao Te Ching

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I think you can strive for perfection, and there is nothing wrong with that, but you just accept that perfection is diaphanous, ethereal.

It`s like the Tao, you can reach for it, but never grasp it, because it is beyond definition.

I think it`s fine to strive for perfection, just don`t become obsessed with your desire for it. Desire is the source of all pain etc. Striving for excellence is just the same, a different word, same thing.
It`s the journey, not the destination, take time to enjoy the journey.

“If you try to change it, you will ruin it. Try to hold it, and you will lose it.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

The tao that can be told
is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named
is not the eternal Name.

The unnamable is the eternally real.
Naming is the origin
of all particular things.

Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations.

Yet mystery and manifestations
arise from the same source.
This source is called darkness.

Darkness within darkness.
The gateway to all understanding.

Tao Te Ching


Oh, I like that.

With perfection in this context I mean trying to obtain something beyond ones scope of technical or artistical skill. Hopefully, that's more clear.

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Also another good one from that company...

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now replace the word "fucking", with the word cunting. :D

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rktic wrote:
terryfalafel wrote:
For the record, I wouldn't have made a remark except for the fact that the creators of these pieces have branded themselves as capable of giving 'Design Advice'.


To provide you a little bit of background: the piece Stacie posted has been culminated over something like a decade. And while you might be right that it looks like merely bland motivational crap from a distance, the tiny pieces of wisdom posted around here might have a similar appeal for those outside this box.
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Hmm, I maintain that it's a modern version of Renton's 'Choose Life' speech intended for the bedroom walls of undergraduate design students from the internet generation.

I'm happy we see it differently though. I appreciate your insights and occasional provocations on this forum, plenty of which are often only tangentially connected to music production. Your posts always make me think :-)


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[Ø] wrote:
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THIS is a platitude.

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terryfalafel wrote:
Hmm, I maintain that it's a modern version of Renton's 'Choose Life' speech intended for the bedroom walls of undergraduate design students from the internet generation.

I'm happy we see it differently though. I appreciate your insights and occasional provocations on this forum, plenty of which are often only tangentially connected to music production. Your posts always make me think :-)


In the end, it's my kind of humor. Didn't expect the amount of interpretations :)

And thank you very, very much for your feedback! Never sure if my intention is resonating somewhere or I'm just annoying the fuck out of folks.

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Nice bit of inspiration

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But platitudes sprinkled with fuck and set in helvetica, so you know they come from the heart

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I am always skeptical of advice that de-emphasizes outside factors and leans heavy on self-reliance, grit and "just fucking working on it"

that shit creates

a) unrealistic expectations of possible outcomes
b) a warped image of what factors actually drive success and how much you can do about them
c) additional anxiety over being somehow at fault for everything that goes wrong because if you were putting in enough effort, the facebook memes have explained that, things wouldn't go wrong. you lazy moron.

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 Post subject: Re: Thought I'd leave this here.
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I don't believe in perfection.

But I like the way that those advices goes.


Follow your intuition

Wander,
Question.
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Obsession.
Knowledge,
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Find your
Obsession

Question everything you know

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wayfinder wrote:
I am always skeptical of advice that de-emphasizes outside factors and leans heavy on self-reliance, grit and "just fucking working on it"

that shit creates

a) unrealistic expectations of possible outcomes
b) a warped image of what factors actually drive success and how much you can do about them
c) additional anxiety over being somehow at fault for everything that goes wrong because if you were putting in enough effort, the facebook memes have explained that, things wouldn't go wrong. you lazy moron.


In total agreement with this.

Coming from some backwards village will always have you at a disadvantage. I dont even want to get into the whole 'producers need to be DJ's' and how an aversion to the social media shitshow has you at a disadvantage as opposed to the creative sociopathic storytellers. Everyone has a multiple decade rich jazz background and shit, and is some kind of prodigy. Its fucking ridiculous.

Im not not gonna preach solutions or bedroom wisdom but i have observed a few things in all this 'jazz' so far and while internet brought unlimited availibilty of music it also enabled ego's across the globe and muddied the waters in a rather grand fashion.

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wayfinder wrote:
I am always skeptical of advice that de-emphasizes outside factors and leans heavy on self-reliance, grit and "just fucking working on it"

that shit creates

a) unrealistic expectations of possible outcomes
b) a warped image of what factors actually drive success and how much you can do about them
c) additional anxiety over being somehow at fault for everything that goes wrong because if you were putting in enough effort, the facebook memes have explained that, things wouldn't go wrong. you lazy moron.


In total agreement with this.

Coming from some backwards village will always have you at a disadvantage. I dont even want to get into the whole 'producers need to be DJ's' and how an aversion to the social media shitshow has you at a disadvantage as opposed to the creative sociopathic storytellers. Everyone has a multiple decade rich jazz background and shit, and is some kind of prodigy. Its fucking ridiculous.

Im not not gonna preach solutions or bedroom wisdom but i have observed a few things in all this 'jazz' so far and while internet brought unlimited availibilty of music it also enabled ego's across the globe and muddied the waters in a rather grand fashion.


couldn't agree more.

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3rd person biographies are for douchebags !
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