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There’s quite a bit going off on techno twitter at the moment regarding Peggy Gou. In summary, here is someone, who with her team, has played the industry game and got to the top - 10k-40k sets, blanket coverage on RA and corporate sponsorship with Nike.

Good for her I suppose, but then it’s more than the recent Nike/Boiler Room gig that seems to irk and caused other respected artists to remonstrate about the current state of the industry. Though perhaps, forgetting it is just that – an industry.

Naturally, this had led onto accusations of jealously and institutionalized misogyny, which while very apparent in dance music, I see less of at play here.

That said, I think this comment from Ciel sums things up perfectly – “Y'all we can be anti-corporate and anti-instagramification of dance music culture without being incel-like”

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[wesellboxes] wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:06 am
There’s quite a bit going off on techno twitter at the moment regarding Peggy Gou. In summary, here is someone, who with her team, has played the industry game and got to the top - 10k-40k sets, blanket coverage on RA and corporate sponsorship with Nike.

Good for her I suppose, but then it’s more than the recent Nike/Boiler Room gig that seems to irk and caused other respected artists to remonstrate about the current state of the industry. Though perhaps, forgetting it is just that – an industry.

Naturally, this had led onto accusations of jealously and institutionalized misogyny, which while very apparent in dance music, I see less of at play here.

That said, I think this comment from Ciel sums things up perfectly – “Y'all we can be anti-corporate and anti-instagramification of dance music culture without being incel-like”
There was a recent thread on the Techno subreddit discussing this alleged apparant misogyny. That got shut down after 24h. This is obviously a subject that is so touchy that it can't be discussed reasonably on social media platforms. Maybe not even in a bar IRL.

Understable, this article got a lot of heat last year as well: https://telegra.ph/Precedent-Advisor-10 ... ScToLUDCXI

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Couldn't give a fuck if it was a man or a woman or somewhere inbetween.
Instagram pop techno, and just the whole commercialization and moronification of it is so far from my reasons for getting in to the music that I`m right at the edge of getting out of it now.
Techno is starting to feel like a dirty word, I want to find a new name for the sound I am mainly focusing on.
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Lost to the Void wrote:
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Techno is starting to feel like a dirty word, I want to find a new name for the sound I am mainly focusing on.
This is exactly how I feel at the moment. Added to the fact that I feel like I'm getting zero reach with my music I'm considering ditching my hobby, for a short tim at least.
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Maybe people are just realizing that there's no free lunch. Resident Advisor was just a marketing/artist agency all along, once in while providing a bit of "journalistic" "content". That's their business model; they know how to play the game incl social media promotion of Peggy Gou (and not much techno about her I guess).

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1st: Who the fuck is Peggy Gou?
2nd: I don't give a fuck

I just don't know what to add.
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Mslwte wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:16 pm
Lost to the Void wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:52 pm
Techno is starting to feel like a dirty word, I want to find a new name for the sound I am mainly focusing on.
This is exactly how I feel at the moment. Added to the fact that I feel like I'm getting zero reach with my music I'm considering ditching my hobby, for a short tim at least.
shit don't do that dude...only last night I purchased your 'resisting the urge of wanting' EP and it's just got me through a gruelling session at the gym so thanks for your great music.
I am not really in the scene anymore but I hate how "trendy" techno has become and I understand how frustrating it must be for someone like yourself (with integrity and not playing the game) but your music is the anathema to that bullshit..as are a lot of other subsekters music. I also bought Lag's 'stutter' EP and it's great.
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Lost to the Void wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:52 pm
Instagram pop techno
there's a genre name right there, We'll keep TECHNO and let the V-neck's have their IPT.
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Mono-xID wrote:
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1st: Who the fuck is Peggy Gou?
2nd: I don't give a fuck
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man.. it's pathetic that people are buying likes & going ultra hard on marketing. it's pop management mentality. Simon Cowell & Louis Walsh eat your heart out. it's multiple artists obviously.

there's room for everyone of course.. but it's a shame to see intelligent people follow trends so easily. you have to be yourself at some point in your life.

blame social media.. but capitalism, consumerism, youth, ignorance & naivety all have a part to play. hopefully people will use the experience as a gateway to something better.

until then, yep.. the world is fucked. But we all knew that already, right?

that Precedent Advisor article is v difficult reading. if 50% of it is true, then we are living in strange times. every asshole has an opinion.. but as time goes on, there are increasingly few places where it is safe to have an opinion and not be accused of being an asshole.

the internet is such a petty and intense place. unreal. that it's dividing itself into teams. you're either with them or you're against them. PC vs. Mac / Vinyl vs. Mp3 x 1,000,000.
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Críoch wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:52 pm
man.. it's pathetic that people are buying likes & going ultra hard on marketing. it's pop management mentality. Simon Cowell & Louis Walsh eat your heart out. it's multiple artists obviously.

there's room for everyone of course.. but it's a shame to see intelligent people follow trends so easily. you have to be yourself at some point in your life.

blame social media.. but capitalism, consumerism, youth, ignorance & naivety all have a part to play. hopefully people will use the experience as a gateway to something better.

until then, yep.. the world is fucked. But we all knew that already, right?

that Precedent Advisor article is v difficult reading. if 50% of it is true, then we are living in strange times. every asshole has an opinion.. but as time goes on, there are increasingly few places where it is safe to have an opinion and not be accused an asshole.

the internet is such a petty and intense place. unreal. that it's dividing itself into teams. you're either with them or you're against them. PC vs. Mac / Vinyl vs. Mp3 x 1,000,000.
Only a few days ago I think Tim Berners-Lee said that "the internet" is not what he had hoped it would be.
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Mono-xID wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:08 pm
1st: Who the fuck is Peggy Gou?
2nd: I don't give a fuck

I just don't know what to add.
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I'm so insanely exhausted on what Techno is and how it's being treated currently. Oddly I feel I have an obligation to stand firm and just laugh at the whole industry part of it, pissing on everyone who were a part building the industry and hype when it falls and just continue.
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Mono-xID wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:08 pm
>2nd: I don't give a fuck
Personally, I'm not so keen about a system where a DJ can earn up to $40,000 a set by playing music made by people that will be lucky to earn $10 from it.

Ties into that DVS1 clip posted up the other week.

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[wesellboxes] wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:57 pm
Personally, I'm not so keen about a system where a DJ can earn up to $40,000 a set by playing music made by people that will be lucky to earn $10 from it.
Hence i don't give a fuck because neither i support this idiocracy nor do i take part in such events.
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[wesellboxes] wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:57 pm
Mono-xID wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:08 pm
>2nd: I don't give a fuck
Personally, I'm not so keen about a system where a DJ can earn up to $40,000 a set by playing music made by people that will be lucky to earn $10 from it.

Ties into that DVS1 clip posted up the other week.
Because in her case the music isn't important at all. Her 'brand's is that much more worth than whatever she plays. The same with most top tier djs.

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The only thing that bothers me is that this whole fucked up scenery spills in what I'm doing. It's nearly impossible these days to do an underground party without having 80% idiots jumping around, shuffling, yelling for that heaving kickdrum, coming over to me while djing and telling me that they love my sound for reasons that are diamterically opposed to why I'm doing this. I thought 'doing my thing' could teach them, but no, they're raping me. At least it feels like it. Atm I end up cancelling booking requests and better have time with myself and my synths. Much more inspiring.
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I'm about done with the internet. It makes me despair about us. It really does. It has opened a lot of doors, and a lot of them were worth keeping closed.

There seems to be absolutely no middle ground on anything, thanks to the internet.

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@James.

Keep going man. You've got more talent in your fucking little finger than ten of me.

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''Corporates want to hire or buy some of what comes from this culture, but in the end they don’t care at all about it, it’s just a way they can buy some cool and sell some more shit.''

Side note: when the fuck has peggy gou ever been remotely involved with the techno scene anyway?

Shes always made housey cuts and now basically just makes pop music dressed up as house music.
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