BREXIT - The Aftermath

[Planar]

Factory work used to pay a decent fair wage (I should know I did it for long enough), round these parts it's minimum wage now. About the same as I started my previous job on over 12 years ago. The influx of economic migrants has forced down wages and that's a fucking fact. I'm pretty sure if any of you guys were to lose your job tomorrow, just to find when you look around for a new job you're going to be earning over £10,000 a year less with the constant fear of losing your home, you may of slightly considered voting the other way or emphasizing with people that voted to leave.

I'm from a working class background and I do understand, even though I think your view is overly simplistic (as posters above have already kind of covered). But the irony of all this is that the kind of people you're describing are now going to be hit hardest by the massive recession we're about to have. A Tory government already with austerity as an excuse is going to fuck over a lot of low earners. It's going to be Thatcher all over again and with no way of telling if/when it'll improve.

[Merah]

No way should the public be left to decide such a HUGE decision. That's why there is a representative democracy. We elect people to make those choices for us. The public have NO idea about the short and long term consequences.

The public gets most of its info from The Sun, and Steve is right, what we witnessed was a triumph of people who disregard facts and expert opinion, in favour of catchy nationalistic slogans. Anti-intellectualism.

True democracy worked for the Greeks, because most people weren't able to vote.

The UK may be at war in 5-10 yrs if the EU fails.

Britain's Google searches for "What is the EU?" spike after Brexit vote

Hours after Britons voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union, they started Googling "What is the EU?" according to Google Trends.
"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced http://pic.twitter.com/1q4VAX3qcm
— GoogleTrends (@GoogleTrends) June 24, 2016

According to data from Google Trends, the searches for "what is the eu" and "what is brexit" started climbing across Britain late into the night.

Thats probably all the foreigners researching in angst.

[Planar]

It's analytics from UK users, not global users.

[Merah]

I mean the immigrants in UK

[Mslwte]

I'm from a working class background and I do understand, even though I think your view is overly simplistic (as posters above have already kind of covered). But the irony of all this is that the kind of people you're describing are now going to be hit hardest by the massive recession we're about to have. A Tory government already with austerity as an excuse is going to fuck over a lot of low earners. It's going to be Thatcher all over again and with no way of telling if/when it'll improve.

The problem with society (especially in the UK) is people look down on others that they think are beneath them financially and/or socially. No body ever looks up at the upper classes and blames them from being lazy (which they can be) as well as detached from the real world that the majority live in. Let's blame immigrants or people on benefits because they are stealing the money I don't have etc. The reason we have so many immigrants is either because we've bombed the shit out of their country or sold arms for there civil wars, or they have been fucked over by there own corrupt government.

There are still entire communities in the UK that haven't recovered since Thatcher fucked them over in the 80's. But no one will blame the government for that, they'll must look down on these people as lazy scum bags.

We should look upwards more often, these people make changes to society that the rest of us have to pay for and struggle with. Cunts.

[Críoch]

So is there any truth or hope in all this fb talk of petitions/ 2nd referendumz & a cunning resignation catch-22 scheme by Cameron to lay responsibility for actually doing the brexit deed on the next PM (Boris), therefore making it dead in the water?

Its a wet dream for conspiracy theorists, stupid idiots & Chinese whispers.

[Lost to the Void]

Who the fuck knows.
I've been reading about all the processes required to remove the country from the EU.
It's insane.
It can only be long painful and ironically, undemocratic.

[Planar]

The one lovely thing Cameron has done is not triggering article 50, therefore throwing his successor under a bus. He's basically ruined their career. Pretty much why Johnson and co have been muted since the result.

[The_G]

I'm not British, but I feel for my UK-based relatives and friends (and all of you who are British and wanted to stay in Europe). And as someone who lived and worked in the UK on an EU passport, I also feel for those who either wanted to live and work in the UK, or who are from the UK and wanted to live and work elsewhere in the EU.

Oh, and let's not forget the non-rich people who will bear the brunt of a weakened currency, tightened credit, vastly increased prices for imports (including food), etc. What a disaster.

[Mslwte]

This is an interesting twist.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... 44?SThisFB

[Wiu]

But that's the point for a lot of people, the EU will not change. Cameron tried to get changes and barely negotiated anything, and from what the news channels (who were all blatantly remain) were saying would more than likely to be blocked post referendum had we voted to remain anyway. Maybe the EU should of said something along the lines of, by 2020, the European minimum wage has to be £7.20 (just as an example). That alone would stem the flow of unskilled workers flooding into countries with higher earnings, which is a huge issue for a lot of people. Sure, realistically that just isn't a possibility, but if they want to treat the whole of the EU with the same set of rules, there should be an equality across the whole of the EU and something along those lines should be looked into in my dumbass opinion. It's pretty fucking obvious that a country where the average annual income is a quarter of the amount of other EU countries, there's going to be a huge amount of economic migration which saturates certain industries making it an employers market allowing them to just pay minimum wage - which is fine for someone used to working for a quarter of that and more than likely sharing a house with friends etc. It's just an uneven playing field. Factory work used to pay a decent fair wage (I should know I did it for long enough), round these parts it's minimum wage now. About the same as I started my previous job on over 12 years ago. The influx of economic migrants has forced down wages and that's a fucking fact. I'm pretty sure if any of you guys were to lose your job tomorrow, just to find when you look around for a new job you're going to be earning over £10,000 a year less with the constant fear of losing your home, you may of slightly considered voting the other way or emphasizing with people that voted to leave.

That's just the view of this old, 'racist', 'xenophobic', moron who should of done better at school, gone to collage, got a trade, done better in life. I've made mistakes and bad decisions throughout my life. I really don't consider voting out another one though. Had my idiotic rant, I'll leave you to it.

yeah... it's certainly a xenophobic rant, wouldn't call it racist yet.

It really makes me sad that you think that

Like someone said on Question Time a minute ago, the remain supporters honestly believe that over 17,410,742 are racists. So so sad and disrespectful.

[Wiu]

Funny. So for all the waffle from most here encouraging protests, freedom of speech, that we're ruled too much, that we don't need to be governed, when a positive thing happens, you believe all the frankly ridiculous bollocks spouted by the remain side or just think selfishly about a short term financial hit. The right side won for sure.

I don't think you can say it is a positive thing that has happened. It's the most divisive thing to have happened since world war 2 and could potentially have serious consequences for lots of countries around the world. The riots and protests are yet to come.

Of course I can say it's a positive thing. I believe that the UK will be absolutely fine in the long run. Just because we've voted to leave the EU doesn't mean we're suddenly going to become savages overnight.

[Mono-xID]

Well, one thing is for sure. You'll find more (not to say a lot) racist people on the "leave" side than on the "remain" side.

Can't imagine ANY Blood and Honor Skinhead prick voted remain.

[Wiu]

Well, one thing is for sure. You'll find more (not to say a lot) racist people on the "leave" side than on the "remain" side.

Can't imagine ANY Blood and Honor Skinhead prick voted remain.

I'd agree with that. But to consider everyone that voted leave as such is just idiotic.

[Mono-xID]

Well, one thing is for sure. You'll find more (not to say a lot) racist people on the "leave" side than on the "remain" side.

Can't imagine ANY Blood and Honor Skinhead prick voted remain.

I'd agree with that. But to consider everyone that voted leave as such is just idiotic.

Doesn't make it any better mate. Always leaves a bitter taste when you sitting in the same boat as the racist scum.

[Wiu]

This is an interesting twist.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... 44?SThisFB

Why would they do that? The SNP are totally going to use this to get a second Scottish referendum vote. The SNP literally couldn't of planned this any better.

[Wiu]

Well, one thing is for sure. You'll find more (not to say a lot) racist people on the "leave" side than on the "remain" side.

Can't imagine ANY Blood and Honor Skinhead prick voted remain.

I'd agree with that. But to consider everyone that voted leave as such is just idiotic.

Doesn't make it any better mate. Always leaves a bitter taste when you sitting in the same boat as the racist scum.

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So I've convinced you that I'm not a racist scumbag? Do you think my family are though? So racist remain voters are fine just because they're in the remain boat?

I'm just agreeing that there may be a tiny minority that purely based their vote on whatever bullshit ideals they hold.

[Mono-xID]

I don't know you nor your family and I also don't know your reasons. What I DO know is that I always was and always will be against racist nazi scum like BH and wouldn't wanted to be associated to this scum at any cost.

You can do what you want, you're old enough for having your own opinions.

[Wiu]

Excuse me if I'm being a moron, who/what is BH?

[Mslwte]

Another interesting theory

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/articl ... bJhqBql0VZ