Why Do You Make Music?

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I do it because I can't not do it, I will go months sometimes without starting anything but then the bug hits me and I feel the urge to lay something down. When my macbook broke a few years ago I would have the daw in my head, frustrated and wanting to put something together, imagining laying out beats and craving to make something like a drug. I'm not really into it to release stuff, to become some big DJ or even wish to DJ, I'd rather just party if i'm honest when I go out, I've done some DJing in the past and yeah it was fun, but I prefer to go out for fun and not have the stress and hassle that comes with carting equipment around, setting up, setting down, dealing with technical issues, all that shit. I just produce and DJ for a release really, after a long shitty day at work, get into my own little bubble, headphones on, wind down and make some tunes, record an ableton set for myself to listen to in the van or car, share with some mates on soundcloud and if they like it then thats a bonus. Mainly though it's me I do it for.

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To give meaning to my life by creating. I think having a creative outlet is vital to ones well being. Thats not to say that the constant chasing of perfection (which of course doesn't exist) and the struggle to up your game, and the ego involved in this is not a form of masochism, but anyway. Its also about life long learning, hopefully it keeps my brain active and occupied, creating new neural pathways, plasticity as they call it.

There is a lot to be gained by being in contact with your muses, or in the flow as its also called. Its incredibly liberating and enjoyable, the world around you melts away, along with any worries, you can live in the moment, time literally bends. Sadly we don't get to choose when those moments happen, but we can create the environment for them to come.


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rktic wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:12 am
It's by far the field of work I understand the most...it's also the field of work I understand the least.
The rabbit hole concept is wonderful.
Ben Kohonays wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:54 pm
The western consumerist society we inhabit tends to drum it out of you, and subsequently many people don't get to explore that side of themselves. This in turn leads to an over-emphasis on sex, as that is the primary method of creation - producing an actual being - and subconsciously we know that, so we compensate for our lack of creative expression with one night stands, prostitution and porn.

The capitalist overlords exploit this to their advantage - sex sells. Plus, all this chasing tail/hookers/porn costs money, so you need to keep doing that shit job to be able to afford to do it.
That's a pretty interesting take on it. I suppose this is good reason for the surge in porn abstinence besides being faithful. The over-emphasis on sex in society is definitely a lie though despite it being everywhere all up in my face almost to the point of smelling it.
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:42 pm
When my macbook broke a few years ago I would have the daw in my head, frustrated and wanting to put something together, imagining laying out beats and craving to make something like a drug. I'm not really into it to release stuff, to become some big DJ or even wish to DJ, I'd rather just party if i'm honest when I go out, I've done some DJing in the past and yeah it was fun, but I prefer to go out for fun and not have the stress and hassle that comes with carting equipment around, setting up, setting down, dealing with technical issues, all that shit.
I was warned by my aunt who is into post-disco old school tunes that music is a drug. I was young and rebellious back in my street hip hop days and didn't take her seriously. How the hell did I even end up on a techno forum. I hate going out to be honest but I try to make it out to one or two big events a year just to be in the loop of things so to speak. I'm pretty terrified of what can come of making music with enough exposure but I think I'm doing okay being a drunk and being more on the eclectic side of things on the Internet. I'm just trying to get high man.
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:33 pm
There is a lot to be gained by being in contact with your muses, or in the flow as its also called. Its incredibly liberating and enjoyable, the world around you melts away, along with any worries, you can live in the moment, time literally bends.
That is some fine romanticism which I think is pretty healthy in this sense because the world is crazy.

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msl wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:33 pm
Its also about life long learning, hopefully it keeps my brain active and occupied, creating new neural pathways, plasticity as they call it.
Excellent point, and possibly a good way of staving off dementia.
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Porn is fucking bad man, shitloads of young people, myself included, on the verge of impotence, can't last more than 5-10 minutes in bed due to the decade long let's shoot some blanks fast policy. Steve if you read this, I'm really hoping you got another trick up your sleeve for this.
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Well watching porn also ruins your creativity, there's a thing with sexual energy and creativity, i forget how the process is called, but yeah, it fucks your creativity

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msl wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:33 pm

There is a lot to be gained by being in contact with your muses, or in the flow as its also called. Its incredibly liberating and enjoyable, the world around you melts away, along with any worries, you can live in the moment, time literally bends.
Absolutely. The integration of left and right hemispherical activity. The place to "be", really. Not really related to music, but most likely to creative production.

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Lost to the Void wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:13 pm
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Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:44 am
Yeah I think you are reading it the wrong way, it's not about producing a masterpiece.
Yep, I reread it and thought the same thing
I make music to make music to make music
Yep, understand this
But I can't, or see no point to, do it for any other reason than I want to do it because it's in there waiting to happen.
Yes of course, anyone's creative talent is in themselves. But mine is exposed (if there's something to expose) through hard work and lots of trial and error, rather than innate ability (talent?!). But despite not having a creative driving force like what's described in the quote from Bukowski, that doesn't diminish my enjoyment of creating, and learning how to create, music.
Well yes, I think creativity, or doing something creative, is a very important process for the psyche.
Whatever it is, making models, music, painting, knitting. It fills a similar headspace to meditation.
I think everyone can benefit from it, you just have to find the creative activity that speaks to you.

I dont think innate talent removes the need for hard work.
The drive to perfection, I think, is somethin that is you regardless of your natural ability.

I can't ever see myself thinking that I have "done enough" and then rest on my laurels.
It's like the old saying
"No painting is ever finished, it merely stops in interesting places".
There will always be something you look back on that you can improve. You just have to learn to, and when to, let go.
I think that is the sign of an artist, haha, never really being happy (for long) with the work.

Those artists that do seem self satisfied generally seem to be hacks.

Astutely put. I can't really add to this without diving into another deepand complicated topic.

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juodas wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:48 pm
Well watching porn also ruins your creativity, there's a thing with sexual energy and creativity, i forget how the process is called, but yeah, it fucks your creativity
The two are closely linked. Like I was alluding to earlier, people who don't have a creative outlet in their lives tend to subconsciously focus that energy and attention on sex. Conversely I've noticed if I spend more time being creative, my libido will drop. And if you're having massive amounts of sex (this includes solo, probably even more so) then your inclination towards creative pursuits is going to be dulled.
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Ben Kohonays wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:42 am
Conversely I've noticed if I spend more time being creative, my libido will drop.
Being a creative person is bad for my relationship actually. Fortunately she is in Russia right now and I think we just needed some space.

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Ben Kohonays wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:42 am
juodas wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:48 pm
Well watching porn also ruins your creativity, there's a thing with sexual energy and creativity, i forget how the process is called, but yeah, it fucks your creativity
The two are closely linked. Like I was alluding to earlier, people who don't have a creative outlet in their lives tend to subconsciously focus that energy and attention on sex. Conversely I've noticed if I spend more time being creative, my libido will drop. And if you're having massive amounts of sex (this includes solo, probably even more so) then your inclination towards creative pursuits is going to be dulled.
Alright that does it, no more sex! I'm going Tesla style.
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0dd wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:34 am
Ben Kohonays wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:42 am
juodas wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:48 pm
Well watching porn also ruins your creativity, there's a thing with sexual energy and creativity, i forget how the process is called, but yeah, it fucks your creativity
The two are closely linked. Like I was alluding to earlier, people who don't have a creative outlet in their lives tend to subconsciously focus that energy and attention on sex. Conversely I've noticed if I spend more time being creative, my libido will drop. And if you're having massive amounts of sex (this includes solo, probably even more so) then your inclination towards creative pursuits is going to be dulled.
Alright that does it, no more sex! I'm going Tesla style.
sex is fine, masturbation isn't, so in other words your penis is the root chakra, when you do that( i mean masturbate, or having loads amoubt of sex) you block energy flow to other chakras for a certain amount of time, and you then having kind of creative block or something simillar, because you only focusig on root chakra instead of balancing others, i don't really think that anyone would be interested to listen music about masturbation .. lol, music is a translation of your emotions, so.. :mrgreen: :geek:

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Let's make jerk-core :lol:
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juodas wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:42 am
Sex is fine, masturbation isn't
People in sports refrain from all sexual activity before big events and I'm starting to think it can be beneficial for creative people. I don't do music every day but I do one long 12 hour stretch of music on a day off from work because that's how I roll. I've given up sex on my music day but I'm probably crazy.

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acesd619 wrote:
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juodas wrote:
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Sex is fine, masturbation isn't
People in sports refrain from all sexual activity before big events and I'm starting to think it can be beneficial for creative people. I don't do music every day but I do one long 12 hour stretch of music on a day off from work because that's how I roll. I've given up sex on my music day but I'm probably crazy.
it's all about the balance, you just need to know when to stop.
I used to be with headphones all the time, even when i'm going to work or whatsoever music 24/7 pretty much, however now i'm just feeling that it's good to take day or few off from music, and listen to nature and do some field recording, especially morning, jeez i love those birds.
Pretty much it feels like you workibg all the time bubin same time you enjoying it

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just for fun I guess. Started doing it about 16 years ago and never stopped :D

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acesd619 wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:10 am
That is some fine romanticism which I think is pretty healthy in this sense because the world is crazy.
Yeah I'm a romantic for sure, but I've had an out of body experience while playing music, no drugs or drink involved. Just an endless winding flowing 6 hour jam session, playing the same song! Music is my therapy, luckily synths are cheaper than shrinks :lol: anyway yeah its the stepping out of time thing...
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msl wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:02 pm
acesd619 wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:10 am
That is some fine romanticism which I think is pretty healthy in this sense because the world is crazy.
Yeah I'm a romantic for sure, but I've had an out of body experience while playing music, no drugs or drink involved. Just an endless winding flowing 6 hour jam session, playing the same song! Music is my therapy, luckily synths are cheaper than shrinks :lol: anyway yeah its the stepping out of time thing...
well, it's good to know that i'm not the only one who gots spaced in therapeutical way, lols :mrgreen:

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msl wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:02 pm
Yeah I'm a romantic for sure, but I've had an out of body experience while playing music, no drugs or drink involved. Just an endless winding flowing 6 hour jam session, playing the same song! Music is my therapy, luckily synths are cheaper than shrinks :lol: anyway yeah its the stepping out of time thing...
Synths cheaper than therapy? What kind of pocket synths are you buying? But yeah I romanticize aspects of music too. For better or for worse. Till death do us part. I was personally challenged I feel on a subconscious level this year by a very worldly person who made me question everything. The fact that I'm still here made my passion more powerful than I thought it could be. In other words - I'm fucked.

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acesd619 wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:59 pm
msl wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:02 pm
luckily synths are cheaper than shrinks :lol:
Synths cheaper than therapy? What kind of pocket synths are you buying?
Maybe not cheaper than a single session, but some people end up going for years, it all mounts up.
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