drum samples & stereo image/freq

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drum samples & stereo image/freq

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hello all:

I have been playing with izotope imager a little bit lately..
i been looking at stereo image of different reference tracks , pre-produced drumloops , single shot drum samples , soft synth plugins , hardware synths , etc and found quite a lot of interesting things....

-below 100hz , bass is often mono , but no 100% , and not all the time .... sometimes it moves around 10% in a ryhtmic way... (which for some reason makes the bootty shake)
-pre produced drum-loops , have heavy stereo image by frequency band treatment... which explains why when i build a track from single shots (which are all mono) sound so a little boring out of the box... ( my tracks are boring by nature , which makes them extremely boring) :lol:

-i found also , that very often , stereo image is not static during the track....some instruments begin very monophonic and start widening heavily towards the build up , creating a lot of tension...

how do you guys approach this subject ?? for the booty bass , and drums stereo image treatment ??? any ideas , tutorials , comments are welcome :ugeek:

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In fact that Electronic music mostly is for club use, where subbasses are mono, you should mono everything down there. Otherwise it can cause a lot problems.. At home everything might sound fine, but then, when you play your new 'bomb' in a club, it is no bomb anymore ;).
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There is nothing wrong with seeing a little side information down there, it's natural. As long as you understand what the meters are saying, don't overthink it.
To get a complete mono track it often comes down to using only mono sound sources or to mono the signal at a very high cross over. I mean you can measure some side information even if you use an elliptical filter at 500hz but it doesn't have to mean anything. Think of it like dynamic range in an audio file that have only silence and is 24 bit, there exist a noise floor and its measurable but it's so silent that it doesn't matter at that point.
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Root wrote:In fact that Electronic music mostly is for club use, where subbasses are mono, you should mono everything down there.
Otherwise it can cause a lot problems..
At home everything might sound fine, but then, when you play your new 'bomb' in a club, it is no bomb anymore ;).
Allright... i knew this was coming:
What if i don't want my music to be played in a club ???? :twisted:
what i want it to be for stereo systems only ??? 8-)

but allright : what about just after the crossover frequency then???
most of the tracks there is a lot going on here !! in the panning for the bass 30° moving in crazy shapes...
but if when i look at some softsynths (for the bass) , sometimes they are completely mono.... which means i will need to do some processing to achieve similar results... what do you think

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Upload me a snippet of your track so I can listen. I'll let you know if it works or not
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