tuning drums / playing in scale - hardware only

[yentz]

Hi,

Now the weather is getting good I thought about taking my octatrack to the balcony to jam a bit outside.
I would really like to keep drums & sounds tuned and on scale. Unfortunatel I cant tell by just hearing which pitch a sound is on especialyl with drums it seems really hard. Does anyone have an idea how to solve this?
Are tuning apps relieable? If so which ones could you recommend (android)

cheers,
jens

[Lost to the Void]

Get a guitar tuner.
It will plug in to an output and tell you what your notes are, and if they are flat or sharp.

Something like the ROWIN LT-900, 20 quid.

[yentz]

Nice, does it work on short hits like percusson as well? Just used the ableton tuner so far which doesnt shown anything if the sound is too short.

[Lost to the Void]

You`ll just have to see, some sounds are too short and atonal to get a reading.

You could just lengthen the release, tune it, then reduce the decay afterwards.

[yentz]

Will try. Thanks, for 20 quid a nobrainer really.

[Alume]

Topic full of tuned percs.

https://www.elektronauts.com/t/30-bassd ... takt/39598

[Southpaw]

If you can't hear any pitch,chances are nobody else can either. Too many variables come into play when trying to tune drums. Pitch envelops, decay time, inharmonic frequencies, over riding noise. Just use your ears, if it needs tweaking, tweak it. I never get this drum tuning thing.

[innovine]

I never get this drum tuning thing.

Oh, well then, if you don't get it, it must be total nonsense. Can't imagine why studios spend so much time and effort on it.

[Southpaw]

I never get this drum tuning thing.

Oh, well then, if you don't get it, it must be total nonsense. Can't imagine why studios spend so much time and effort on it.

I beg to differ because I absolutely do get it. Can you provide evidence of that statement that studios spend this time and effort on it, or have you just made that up?

I never said don't tune them. I said just use your ears, what's wrong with that? Using a pitch detecting tool may pick up a prominant fundamental but it does little to tell you about what additional harmonic/inharmonic material is also present, a spectral analyzer is more useful than something which is only going to pick up the loudest frequency. All I'm saying is that I think it's a waste of time to get overly anal about it

[Lost to the Void]

Well, I would say "use your ear" about pretty much everything.
But a lot of people in this place want a "how to".
I mean, I tune all my drums by ear.
I tune everything by ear.
I EQ by ear, I work intuitively pretty much all the time, but it`s hard to tell people "just do it intuitively".

[intrusav]

Not everyone can do that...

It's something I discovered listening to a friend's track and was amazed by it.
The guy hadn't a note in his head.
Guess it's called being "tone deaf"

[intrusav]

I use a fliter with hi rez to find a 'compatible' pitch, sweeping til it sounds 'right' and then lowering the q. Good as a reference point but far from sky 'n' tiffik. Could be hitting a fundamental or some harmonic value. But, if it sounds alright...shwing

[Lost to the Void]

Not everyone can do that...

It's something I discovered listening to a friend's track and was amazed by it.
The guy hadn't a note in his head.
Guess it's called being "tone deaf"

I mean, if you are truly tone deaf, you`ll never be out of that, so go paint, or make sculpture or something, find another way to create.

Or just make noise....

[Mattias]

By ear is the way to go really.

However occasionally it can be good to have a tuner, I prefer the TC Electronic Polytune

[Southpaw]

Not everyone can do that...

It's something I discovered listening to a friend's track and was amazed by it.
The guy hadn't a note in his head.
Guess it's called being "tone deaf"

Low frequency sounds can be difficult to pitch by ear but just play the sound an octave or 2 higher and it generally becomes a lot easier to identify a pitch, just tune it in context and knock it back down again. If there's a lot of noise a low pass filter could help reveal the tone. That's about as complex as it gets for me.

[terryfalafel]

Topic full of tuned percs.

https://www.elektronauts.com/t/30-bassd ... takt/39598

Toppie!