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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:39 am 
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WOLF! wrote:
This could be a nice topic addition if you want to know more about compressors.

VCA, Opto, Vari-Mu, FET compressors… When to use which?

http://quantum-music.ca/wordpress/index.php/2015/07/29/


thanks man, really nice article!


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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:19 pm 
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Just wanted to say thanks again for such a good explanation.

I hadn't dug MJUC out for while but have done a load of messing around with it and have new love for it.

It depends on the track but generally I'm compressingonly a tiny amount on the master, like 0.5-1db ish, sometimes more. I've been really enjoying the mk3 model best for the master buss. That with the i-stage turned on it can be used as a really nice tone shaper with minimal compression, using the timbre dial and sometimes the saturation if it calls for it. It can really add an sense of openness used in this context.

On the drums when I have used it, which is a bit less frequently I've been loving the mk1, it has a lot of vibe. Haven't used the mk2 model so much so will dig deeper into that one.

MJUC and SDRR2 together is a really great combo.

Look forward to part 3 when you got the time for it Void!


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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:22 pm 
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sorry if this has already been mentioned somewhere but I couldn't find anything~

to understand how this fits within the overall mixing/mastering process, does the 'rhythmic' compressor used here replace the first compressor used in the mastering guide? or once you've mixed into it, do you print what you've got and then apply the 2 mastering compressors afterwards as a separate process?

From the mastering guide -

"So the idea is you use one compressor to capture rapid peaks and control them, you then use another compressor to control overall changes in the body of the music, which will act more slowly and gently."


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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:32 pm 
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if you were a mastering engineer then the answer would be, it depends if the track needs it to get the result required.

In home maximisation terms, I would say nope. If you are mixing in to the compressor, then don`t then stick another 2 compressors over it when maximising the final level after rendering the mix. 1 compressor to capture peaks and then a limiter would be fine.
The music will be more controlled already having been mixed in to a compressor.

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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
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awesome, thanks Void


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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
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Dropping in to say thanks for this post Void. This has been the missing link in my productions over the years. I almost feel silly for not knowing about it sooner.


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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:17 pm 
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Thanks a lot for sharing this, both the method and explanation about compression! Just returned to the forum after a while away as I felt I needed some more basic knowledge to better take in some of the information on here. Stumbled over this thread first and as many others have written its a immediate game changer! Something my tracks sorely needed


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 Post subject: Re: Mix Bus Compression Guide
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:44 am 
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Another form of Mix Buss Compression is to put on a Tape Bus plugin such as my personal favourite the ToneBoosters ReelBus. It just adds that tapey warmth and brings the low end up a bit. I have been mixing into the Cytomic Glue (same as Ableton Glue Comp but a little more options) for awhile now and its a great SSL emulation. For those of you that are just starting out and learning how to use the compressor, the trick is not to have the compressor work too hard reducing gain more than 3-4dB on the extreme side. It is generally better to run compressors in series if you need more compression. It obviously depends on the sound you're going for too. Compressors that have Mix knobs allow you to achieve the NY Compression technique as well so you can dial in more extreme settings then use the mix knob to blend the signals although I keep my mix knob on the Glue at 50%. I suggest to err on the side of subtlety when mixing into a compressor though as too much compression from the gitgo may give you a false sense of balance of the mix. Thanks for the time spent on the tutorial though, it is very important for the beginners to learn compressors properly as it is very easy to over compress!


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