Re: Acoustic Treatment Help ?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:19 am
The winter is coming so it's nice to work inside and make your own acoustic panels (if you have DIY skills of course).
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That doesn't sound not too bad. I contacted them and will send a 3d model of the room now. If the room can be done with that investment that it will be useable I might save for it actually.remykruyer wrote:My budget was €1500, i've got 4 monster basstraps, 4 224 panels and 2 alpha panels. 2 monster basstraps are on my ceiling, 2 on the back of the wall. The 224 panels are left and right of my listening position and the alpha panels are in the corner for early reflections. Just contact them and see what they can do, the advice is free of charge.
yentz wrote:That doesn't sound not too bad. I contacted them and will send a 3d model of the room now. If the room can be done with that investment that it will be useable I might save for it actually.remykruyer wrote:My budget was €1500, i've got 4 monster basstraps, 4 224 panels and 2 alpha panels. 2 monster basstraps are on my ceiling, 2 on the back of the wall. The 224 panels are left and right of my listening position and the alpha panels are in the corner for early reflections. Just contact them and see what they can do, the advice is free of charge.
I thought about DIY as well but as someone said above there is so much info you need to learn plus not having a proper space to do the work makes this appear a good solution.
Still a lot of money but I expected it to be more expensive.
Placebo acoustic treatmentMattias wrote:Considering a lot of people just use some foam bought products from Thomann for £100
I use egg cartons, perfect placebo treatment, doesn't cost much and you get eggs as a bonus! Yummy!WOLF! wrote:Placebo acoustic treatmentMattias wrote:Considering a lot of people just use some foam bought products from Thomann for £100
Considering your avatar you need you need lots of protein .Barfunkel wrote:I use egg cartons, perfect placebo treatment, doesn't cost much and you get eggs as a bonus! Yummy!WOLF! wrote:Placebo acoustic treatmentMattias wrote:Considering a lot of people just use some foam bought products from Thomann for £100
I also wrap tin foil around my head when I'm making music, keeps those pesky aliens from contacting me with their mental beams. It can be quite a distraction.
I have not moved into my new room yet, so i dont know how it will sound or what the problems are, but im reading and planning for the treatment. Would you say its a good idea to start with diy broadband absorbers, and get some tuned basstraps depending on the results?Lost to the Void wrote:yentz wrote:That doesn't sound not too bad. I contacted them and will send a 3d model of the room now. If the room can be done with that investment that it will be useable I might save for it actually.remykruyer wrote:My budget was €1500, i've got 4 monster basstraps, 4 224 panels and 2 alpha panels. 2 monster basstraps are on my ceiling, 2 on the back of the wall. The 224 panels are left and right of my listening position and the alpha panels are in the corner for early reflections. Just contact them and see what they can do, the advice is free of charge.
I thought about DIY as well but as someone said above there is so much info you need to learn plus not having a proper space to do the work makes this appear a good solution.
Still a lot of money but I expected it to be more expensive.
Diy bass traps are not worth it. Making tuned resonators/membranes is not an easy task, and a straight thick ass diy wedge of rockwool tyoe trap is mind of a wast of money to really deal with low end properly.
http://amroc.andymel.eu/?l=300&w=290&h=240&r60=0.6pimo wrote: Also, can i somehow calculate the acoustic properties of the room? Or am i best of measuring? If so, does anyone have any recommendations on a cheap and simple, but reliable, microphone/program to get some graphs?
For me it was worth every cent, it sounds really really good now. I've got Genelecs with GLM system so the monitors are calbirated to the rooms frequency response.yentz wrote:That doesn't sound not too bad. I contacted them and will send a 3d model of the room now. If the room can be done with that investment that it will be useable I might save for it actually.remykruyer wrote:My budget was €1500, i've got 4 monster basstraps, 4 224 panels and 2 alpha panels. 2 monster basstraps are on my ceiling, 2 on the back of the wall. The 224 panels are left and right of my listening position and the alpha panels are in the corner for early reflections. Just contact them and see what they can do, the advice is free of charge.
I thought about DIY as well but as someone said above there is so much info you need to learn plus not having a proper space to do the work makes this appear a good solution.
Still a lot of money but I expected it to be more expensive.
I'm using a Dayton audio EMM-6 measurement (calibrated) microphone in the 'basic plus' version that I purchased from Cross-Spectrum.pimo wrote:does anyone have any recommendations on a cheap and simple, but reliable, microphone/program to get some graphs?
Speaking of GIK, they seem to offer these premade packs of acoustic treatment. Are those worth the money or should you always aim higher, get a professional to measure the room and build custom panels and traps?Lost to the Void wrote: Try GIK.
Lost to the Void wrote:yentz wrote:That doesn't sound not too bad. I contacted them and will send a 3d model of the room now. If the room can be done with that investment that it will be useable I might save for it actually.remykruyer wrote:My budget was €1500, i've got 4 monster basstraps, 4 224 panels and 2 alpha panels. 2 monster basstraps are on my ceiling, 2 on the back of the wall. The 224 panels are left and right of my listening position and the alpha panels are in the corner for early reflections. Just contact them and see what they can do, the advice is free of charge.
I thought about DIY as well but as someone said above there is so much info you need to learn plus not having a proper space to do the work makes this appear a good solution.
Still a lot of money but I expected it to be more expensive.
Diy bass traps are not worth it. Making tuned resonators/membranes is not an easy task, and a straight thick ass diy wedge of rockwool tyoe trap is mind of a wast of money to really deal with low end properly.
Yup broadband, but not for bass. That's when the trouble starts and you have to go to the pro companies unless you're an ace constructing acoustical panels yourself.off_axis wrote:You can have a very decent, complete broadband isolation for, say 200 euros - the price of a few bass traps.
Rockwool isn't optimal but i wouldn't say it does nothing for the very low end. To get optimal results at 100hz, you would have to place the panels at roughly a bit less than a meter, now place them at a realizable distance, say 25 cm, and it will still absorb something, just less. So they still are a noticeable improvement, at least according to soundonsound ("practical bass traps" section).Lost to the Void wrote:Rockwool does nothing for troublesome sub 150hz low frequencies, which are the real problem, unless you are making it a meter thick. You literally cannot get down even close to 150 with rockwool, ESPECIALLY if you have your rockwool trap against a wall. It has to be feet away from the wall. And to cover anything under even 250hz it has to be like 4ft from the wall to do anything.
And so to DIY a resonator panel.... Its just cheaper and less hassle to buy some.