problems with M4L LFO's

[Hades]

simple question :

while I was arranging and mixing my last track, I was using the Max4Live LFO's a lot to introduce some small modulations over time.
Usually I was just using them on stuff like panning or volume, since most of the clips I was using already had enough modulation recorded into them.

anyway, at some point, I noticed it started introducing distortion into the track.
I had checked everything : levels weren't too high (even with the LFO controlling the volume), it was not the fault of any other device in my FX chain.
And I was 100% certain it came from the tracks with the LFO devices in, and not from too much volume when several parts were together in the mix,
cause when I solo'ed the tracks one by one I could clearly hear the distortion when the LFO was enabled and the distortion gone when the LFO was disabled.

I have no fucking clue whatsoever what the reason is, and have no idea why this happened.
I have used the devices before with no problem, and my laptop is more than new enough (hardly a year old) to handle all that (CPU was hardly reaching 25% in this track and no need to freeze anything)

It finally ended with me taking the devices out and doing manual little chances for all the tracks that used them and for my whole track.
Boring stupid stuff I was hoping to avoid using the LFO's.
I used sines and S&H waveforms.
But like I said : I have used both of these before and never had any trouble.

I know some of you use these devices a lot : anyone had this happening before ?

[Alume]

Never had that before man, and I use them on 80% of the sounds.

[UN!T B]

Try increasing or decreasing the buffer size you cunt.

[Alume]

Try increasing or decreasing the buffer size you cunt.

[Planar]

Where you modulating anything other than pan/levels? Maybe a volume change was interacting with another effect in the chain?

[Lost to the Void]

Try increasing or decreasing the buffer size you cunt.

Haha
Welcome to the forum fuckflaps.

[Hades]

Try increasing or decreasing the buffer size you cunt.

Haha
Welcome to the forum fuckflaps.

yeah dickface has a bad mouth before he earned some proper respect to use the c-word in the right context.

my buffer-size is set at 512 samples, hardly something that couldn't be handled.
plus I have never had a problem with my buffer size before.

[Hades]

however, I just realized, if it's our old UN!T returning, then welcome back though !

[Mslwte]

The only bug I've had with the lfo is that it was automating a channel fader really fast even though it wasn't assigned to it. Only did it one day but it was across all the projects that I had used the lfo on.

[SigEnt]

Ahh, Crash 4 Live!! I had a rather odd issues with the LFO losing it's mapping plus the impulse verb went fuckin banzai on me at the weekend. I upgraded Max from 6.1 to 6.1.9 and everything is fine now.

Perhaps upgrade MAX to the latest version.

[UN!T B]

Haha
Welcome to the forum fuckflaps.

That's a new one... Its a very delicate sounding word.

however, I just realized, if it's our old UN!T returning, then welcome back though !

Who else would it be?!? I cannot imagine that anybody would be wanting to impersonate me, but you never know.

my buffer-size is set at 512 samples, hardly something that couldn't be handled.
plus I have never had a problem with my buffer size before.

Just because you haven't had a problem in the past, don't mean you won't have a problem in the present or future. Its going to add a load onto the processor for sure. I am not saying its going to max it out. It is a variable tho. Your description sounds like the processor is being taxed. You add LFO's and now you have distortion or something??? you remove them and it goes away. There is certainly no harm in trying my suggestion. Of course, you are free to ignore what I have said and continue to wonder what the problem is.

Another thing to check is that you have multi core enabled in your preferences...
Also feel free to ignore this as well if you choose. I have an allotted specific amount of time to the internet on a daily basis to post information that I think is utterly useless and completely trivial with the secret hope that people will ignore it. Its just this strange thing I have.




Why does my user name appear as UN!T Back. Ack!!! Where did the ack come from. I don't log in as UN!T Back. I may have returned, but I am not UN!T Back. It's simply UN!T B if you don't mind please and thank-you....

[Hades]

hey fuckface : interact. please don't start spamming us !

hahahahahaha !

and welcome back, though I don't believe in the "power of vintage", I can't deny I have a lot of vintage stuff,
and I thought I'd end up being the only vintage shithead on subsekt.

now that you're back though...

[SquareTheCircle]

No problems here. Where is your CPU at when this is going on? Does anything go into the red as is scans frequencies?

[Hades]

no, checked all that, I had nothing going into the red, and my CPU was barely at 20%

[UN!T B]

Do you have anything going in to the pink?!?

[rozze]

I also use a lot of m4l devices to modulate live parameters. I've not really tested if my max devices have an influence on the sound, but I've never liked the idea of putting for example an audio lfo directly on the audio track (so the audio runs "through" the device). I always put my mod devices on a different track or I create an effect rack, create an extra chain just for the mod devices and turn its audio off. Never had any distortion problems that way.

[Mslwte]

Cubase sounds better than ableton.

[Mslwte]

Do you have anything going in to the pink?!?

[Hades]

Do you have anything going in to the pink?!?

wanna touch my tralala ?

[UN!T B]

Do you have anything going in to the pink?!?

wanna touch my tralala ?

Maybe...Is it clean? When did you last shower?