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Dephlekt wrote:
Made this track last night:
https://soundcloud.com/dephlekt/signular-parts

Any feedback is more than welcome!!


we got this rule here that you're supposed to give feedback to 2 or 3 of the latest tracks here before you post your own stuff up to ask for feedback.
If you would have tried a 1st post like this in the new tracks part of this forum, it would get locked or deleted pretty damn fast.

This is a community :
give some feedback,
get feedback from others.

This is your very 1st post and already you're only asking for something and not contributing anything. :|
If you would have gone through the last 2 or 3 (or more) pages, you would have seen this has been mentioned many times before.
So or you didn't read these because it generally doesn't interest you what others here had to say/contribute, and you just went ahead to post your own stuff,
or you did read this and chose to ignore it anyway.
Whatever the case, both options don't really leave a good first impression. :|

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(for the 5 girls that would come).


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bioniceye wrote:
im not sure if i like it, it has groove for sure but it sounds like a Sunday church party song with that organ
if you keep on working on it the organ part has too much distortion and the string melody is a little bit strange
mayb you can add a gospel sample aswell


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bioniceye wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/hanosams/glider/s-R6BEE

Any thoughts or advice on this one
something more housier



Your stuff is getting better with every production.

The main issue I have is not the track itself, it's the noises. Something you do makes things seem thin. I mean, the mix is good, but it's lacking a bit of dust/ warmth. It's as though everything has been cleaned with hospital antiseptic, things are so clean.

What I think is missing is some grit and warmth. How much time do you spend eq-ing?

The pad/synth sounds like only one oscilator, it's really thin. I'm wanting the kick and the bass to envelope me, but they don't.

What are you using as your kick/bass?

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Dephlekt wrote:
Made this track last night:
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I'll put as much effort into feedback as you have into the forum. :D

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bioniceye wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/hanosams/glider/s-R6BEE

Any thoughts or advice on this one
something more housier


Like it, elements go together nicely!
When it comes to mix it sounds to me like there are missing low mids/mids and that hats are too highpassed.. But my ears are tired atm so maybe its just me..
Overall nice positive track :)


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bioniceye wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/hanosams/glider/s-R6BEE

Any thoughts or advice on this one
something more housier



Your sounddesign is pretty 'classic' orientated and works as it is, the elements fit well. There is a clear lack of subbasses and a bit warmth, the mix down there feels like there is a lowcut at 100hz or so. As already said, everything is a bit clean, maybe just because the lack of lows. Clean also means no mud, what is always better i guess.

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bioniceye wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/hanosams/glider/s-R6BEE

Any thoughts or advice on this one
something more housier


Loving your style, the synthwave really shines in this track especially with your choice of instruments.
I could imagine it being on the Vice City soundtrack cruising down miami beach.

I agree with the other guys when they talk about your hi percussion is sounding a little thin and the bass sounds like the LPF is a little too high.

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So i went and watched ANNA play last week and she blew the club away.
Quality stuff from her so i wanted to make something that would fit into her sets.
In combination with an MF sample i made this...

https://soundcloud.com/suppressormusic/ ... ir/s-Vu8yw

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jordanneke wrote:
bioniceye wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/hanosams/glider/s-R6BEE

Any thoughts or advice on this one
something more housier



Your stuff is getting better with every production.

The main issue I have is not the track itself, it's the noises. Something you do makes things seem thin. I mean, the mix is good, but it's lacking a bit of dust/ warmth. It's as though everything has been cleaned with hospital antiseptic, things are so clean.

What I think is missing is some grit and warmth. How much time do you spend eq-ing?

The pad/synth sounds like only one oscilator, it's really thin. I'm wanting the kick and the bass to envelope me, but they don't.

What are you using as your kick/bass?


I gotta agree with our stallion here.

Musically there's nothing wrong with the track, but the sounds do indeed sound too thin,
and there's absolutely not enough low end.

I love your bass sound, but I would try to modulate it a little bit.
In fact pretty much all your sounds don't really change during the track.
They're good sounds, but the track would benefit from more modulation.
I'd also try to take the bass and leave out the last 2 notes of the riff (on each note) once in a while in the track,
so you got 4 notes per riff instead of 6, maybe even try it with just the first 3,
especially because you already have another sound (coming in at 1:36) playing notes at the same time.

Your hats sound very thin, and almost not there in the mix.
Same for most of your percussion.
Clap sounds a bit weak as well.

Why not try a 2nd note or chord for your pad sound ?

You got down pretty much most of the musical part,
now it's just improving some techniques a bit.
That's pretty good news, cause most producers never get the musical part right.

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I also suspect that you click in all your notes (which is totally fine of course, most of us don't know how to play keys),
because the notes sound as if they all have almost all the same velocity.
I would bring in more velocity changes and try and use some swing.
I'm not a big user of swing myself, but I think your track could benefit from it,
or at least from having a few notes being a bit less perfect on time/in sync with the rest.
It's too perfect now, and combined with the clean sound of the production,
it's as if someone took Steffi and soaked her in bleach for a month till she started looking like some anonymous model named Amber or Tiffany.

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So i went and watched ANNA play last week and she blew the club away.
Quality stuff from her so i wanted to make something that would fit into her sets.
In combination with an MF sample i made this...

https://soundcloud.com/suppressormusic/ ... ir/s-Vu8yw


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I also suspect that you click in all your notes (which is totally fine of course, most of us don't know how to play keys),
because the notes sound as if they all have almost all the same velocity.
I would bring in more velocity changes and try and use some swing.
I'm not a big user of swing myself, but I think your track could benefit from it,
or at least from having a few notes being a bit less perfect on time/in sync with the rest.
It's too perfect now, and combined with the clean sound of the production,
it's as if someone took Steffi and soaked her in bleach for a month till she started looking like some anonymous model named Amber or Tiffany.


I think that's a main issue, the velocity. I never realised, but now you've said it.

There's the velocity function on Ableton, but I've never got it to work properly. I'm pretty (very shit) at keys, but aside from the kick, I never draw notes in. When I have a midi clip, and the velocities are way out, I'll always adjust them so they are within a range, with some slight variation.

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jordanneke wrote:
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I also suspect that you click in all your notes (which is totally fine of course, most of us don't know how to play keys),
because the notes sound as if they all have almost all the same velocity.
I would bring in more velocity changes and try and use some swing.
I'm not a big user of swing myself, but I think your track could benefit from it,
or at least from having a few notes being a bit less perfect on time/in sync with the rest.
It's too perfect now, and combined with the clean sound of the production,
it's as if someone took Steffi and soaked her in bleach for a month till she started looking like some anonymous model named Amber or Tiffany.


I think that's a main issue, the velocity. I never realised, but now you've said it.

There's the velocity function on Ableton, but I've never got it to work properly. I'm pretty (very shit) at keys, but aside from the kick, I never draw notes in. When I have a midi clip, and the velocities are way out, I'll always adjust them so they are within a range, with some slight variation.


clean sound (in this case not enough warmth and lacking low end, I think we all pretty much agreed on that),
velocity and not enough modulation on the sounds during the track.
I have mentioned the modulation thing before, but of course, these northern neighbors of ours are a bunch of stubborn motherfuckers and just don't listen. ;)
But yeah, really beautiful melodic content, so it's a lot easier to make that shine more than to have a great produced track with shit all in there to remember, especially for what bioniceye is trying to do.

I just listened to some old Chromeo (hadn't listened to their stuff for years, "Needy Girl" was a track that got played a lot on my bachelor weekend and the months before it), because that bass line reminded me of Chromeo somehow.
Not gonna say I like all their stuff that much, but the funk in there... fucking love it.
Most important part about these bass lines (in my humble opinion) is the moment they leave out a note and the moment they start with an extra note here or there before you expect it.

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Ok, since my last post, the track has evolved into this.

I'm aware of some mix issues, the low end needs tightening up. I'll side-chain the low of the bass. and eq it better. and I'll eq the kick better, perhaps compress it.

the arrangement to the break also needs working on. I'll have flashes of the organ before the break as well.

The percs need to be louder in the mix.

Any thoughts? The second half has to be arranged yet.


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jordanneke wrote:
Ok, since my last post, the track has evolved into this.

I'm aware of some mix issues, the low end needs tightening up. I'll side-chain the low of the bass. and eq it better. and I'll eq the kick better, perhaps compress it.

the arrangement to the break also needs working on. I'll have flashes of the organ before the break as well.

The percs need to be louder in the mix.

Any thoughts? The second half has to be arranged yet.



I was gonna say : use some more filter modulation, but then you're past 1:35 and it's there.
I would think : tighten up the filter and amp envelope : make the attack and decay parts better.

Also, I think your kick needs to get a few milliseconds earlier.
Whether you use a transient designer, or just move that track delay slider...
but now it sounds as if the kick is behind on the rest of the track.

That's about all I can think of right now

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Hades wrote:
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https://soundcloud.com/death_becoming/mourn-1/s-1YlZN .... i already sent this to hades and did a quick little hour long fix up with his advice in mind, but wondering what everyone else thinks


Just checked the feedback I gave last time.

Your FX are done better now.

I still think your hats could do with a better pattern.

And your low end is still muddy.

Most of all, the repetitive nature of your parts is far too big.
Like once you got your horn kind of sound in there, it's there every fucking time,
like there's not a single time it's not there. (that's about 5 min !)
You gotta surprise the listener from time to time and just take it out here or there.

Track is also too long for what you have in there at the moment.


bioniceye wrote:
some points i mentioned when listening to this. Firstly its way too long. Second the low end is really muddy and third the transitions from highpass to lowpass are too abruptly.
im not so keen on the lead aswell, it doesnt fits really in the mix and its there for almost the whole song without any other leadsound to make the groove different or to make it sound different


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Fucking hell. It's a bit full on.

There seems to be a massive disconnect between 2 clips when the drop happens. The shift from lp to hp is too much.

It's not a bad track, but nearly 9 mins is far too long. Double the time that I want to listen to a track whose hook is the steam train from the nighttrain.

You need to pare down the arrangement, and be more sparing with the train sample. It's too prevalent for a 9 min track. The arrangment probably should be halved.

Technically, it sounds pretty good.


why y'all hating on the night train?
nah some fair points mostly stuff that i think myself, and seems to be a general consensus the track is too long for what it is. which disconnect lp-to-hp are you all referring too?

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Hades wrote:
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So i went and watched ANNA play last week and she blew the club away.
Quality stuff from her so i wanted to make something that would fit into her sets.
In combination with an MF sample i made this...

https://soundcloud.com/suppressormusic/ ... ir/s-Vu8yw


link not working


Strange. It works for me?

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Strange. It works for me?


is it a private track ?
then you should not just copy the url,
but press that share button and copy the url they give you.

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Hades wrote:
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Strange. It works for me?


is it a private track ?
then you should not just copy the url,
but press that share button and copy the url they give you.


hmm maybe i deleted it it some point... This is the updated URL.

https://soundcloud.com/suppressormusic/join-me-in-the-air/s-Vkv2x

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