Studio Build dilemma

[Mono-xID]

Thanks The Bullfrogs are amazing. I am from Berlin and the Company too. So they set them up perfectly. They visit me after the acoustic was done, and they told me this could be one of the best sounding bedroom studios in Berlin We did measurements with his Tool (not Sonarworks), but he told it is not needed here.

BTW, sometimes I turn on the Playstation

Distale, is it you?

[Markus Wolf]

I had a fully treated room once. Wall panels and bass traps custom made. Yes it helped but I make better music now that I have a more minimal setup.....

[ekwipt]

@michi - very nice space! Is it me or do you have a crazy wide monitor there? ..

Edit: see them online now, ultrawide, never knew these existed! How do they work, in terms of programs using the full width resolution? ..

I just got an Ultrawide Dell 34", its great for workflow in ableton not having to scroll through the screens etc, recommended!

[michi]

Mono-xID, yets its me Distale aka TMPLT

https://linktr.ee/TMPLT

[michi]

I have this one here:
https://www.alternate.de/Dell/U4919DW-L ... ct/1501420?

I love it. I use the space like this:

https://imgur.com/a/qqe2Kn3

[Mono-xID]

Mono-xID, yets its me Distale aka TMPLT

https://linktr.ee/TMPLT

I think we once met each other at Mike Wall's (RIP) B-day. Nice to see you here.

[timc3]

Anyway I have decided to go with Acoustician and doing a bigger job, though it will be slightly cut down due to my needs. Looking both at the cost and amount of effort (the walls would have needed renovating anyway) it's not very different but I think the result will be better and besides this is a lot more of an interesting project than just sticking some treatment up!

[michi]

@mono-xID Yes, true ._( R.I.P Mike )!!!!

[slowpilgrim]

Yeah, I have a bit of a budget, was thinking up to about 5000Euros for acoustic treatment and build (and I can & will build things myself) and then in addition to that I have a budget for new monitors, furniture, cables etc.. Not a huge amount compared to others but still ok. But I think my reality is it must also be a place that I am happy to spend hours in designing and writing software and doing Zoom calls, then move to the other side of the room and start making some music.

Thanks for the help!

5000 euros will definitely give you a marked improvement to your listening environment.

Primarily I would start with better monitors. The most important thing in the room is the thing that produces the sound.
There are a lot of options these days, you can get HOFA cylinder bass traps at a very good price these days, 4 or 8 of those in a room will dramatically reduce your standing waves for 7-800 quid (if you just use 4). EQ acoustics do limp membrane absorbers for a very affordable price, they are a uk company, and really good guys to deal with.
Some traps, a little diffusion, split the 5000 50/50 between treatment and monitors and you could have a nice listening environment more than good enough to help you get to the point where your premasters only require a light touch in mastering.

These L10s?

Considering 2 to stick behind my monitors as also working in a very small room. Price is good compared to GIK tri traps etc.

https://eqacoustics.com/collections/bas ... 6334160981

[Lost to the Void]

Yeah, I have a bit of a budget, was thinking up to about 5000Euros for acoustic treatment and build (and I can & will build things myself) and then in addition to that I have a budget for new monitors, furniture, cables etc.. Not a huge amount compared to others but still ok. But I think my reality is it must also be a place that I am happy to spend hours in designing and writing software and doing Zoom calls, then move to the other side of the room and start making some music.

Thanks for the help!

5000 euros will definitely give you a marked improvement to your listening environment.

Primarily I would start with better monitors. The most important thing in the room is the thing that produces the sound.
There are a lot of options these days, you can get HOFA cylinder bass traps at a very good price these days, 4 or 8 of those in a room will dramatically reduce your standing waves for 7-800 quid (if you just use 4). EQ acoustics do limp membrane absorbers for a very affordable price, they are a uk company, and really good guys to deal with.
Some traps, a little diffusion, split the 5000 50/50 between treatment and monitors and you could have a nice listening environment more than good enough to help you get to the point where your premasters only require a light touch in mastering.

These L10s?

Considering 2 to stick behind my monitors as also working in a very small room. Price is good compared to GIK tri traps etc.

https://eqacoustics.com/collections/bas ... 6334160981

Yeah.
good guys too, they will custom make you stuff to whatever size/shape you require too.

[slowpilgrim]

Brilliant thanks for the rec!

[slowpilgrim]

Is it possible to DIY something similar to those L10 limp membrane traps? Can't find any details on the construction, I already have earthwool and tools to make broadband absorbers. If they're similar to the GIK traps then it's just a limp membrane on the front and earthwool behind it with an air gap.

[Lost to the Void]

I suppose you could.
You want loaded vinyl.
You could stretch it across the frame in front of the rockwool. Or sandwich it between sheets of rockwool.
It's pricy and you generally have to buy a lot of it (loaded vinyl) so it probably won't end up any cheaper.

Here you go
https://www.sruinsulation.co.uk/mlv-100 ... aded-Vinyl

There is also clearsound acoustics but they are not operating during lockdown. We got lots of stuff from them when we built the mastering room. Acoustic plaster and flooring. Isolation fittings etc.
Decent company.

[Belka]

I will build 2 more tuned Limp Mass Absorbers this weekend, when i dont hangover around. I will make Pictures and Meausurments. Trying to kill 32,5 HZ mode, using 5,5kg/m² rubber matt. Boxes will be 60x40x56~ or something (60x40cm is fix, u only calculat the depth). Already build 2 which sunk it about 15dB over 300 ms. If you DIY its pretty cheap. In germany our big hardware stores have big Saws, it costs pennys to let the staff saw some pannels, the pannels itself are from the rest box for 2 to 5 Euros per piece. Rubber Matt was 25 something i think. Tuned Limp Mass Absorbers will work over a Octave, so it will also sink the modes above .... sometimes. Wish me luck ...

[slowpilgrim]

Nice one, I found this which has perfect dimensions for 2x traps

https://www.ikoustic.co.uk/products/flo ... ier-10kgm2

for not too much £££, will give it a go!

edit: delivery same price as product, hopefully can find something local instead.

[Lost to the Void]

Nice one, I found this which has perfect dimensions for 2x traps

https://www.ikoustic.co.uk/products/flo ... ier-10kgm2

for not too much £££, will give it a go!

edit: delivery same price as product, hopefully can find something local instead.

That`s a good deal, can`t speak for the quality of it though.